So what's not to like

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

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Out of date
Mythical status
Collection of falsehood
Otherwise no too bad a hippy.
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David Smudge wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:41 pm Jesus _ So what's not to like?
Martyrdom.
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Potentially...

Fanaticism
Blatant behavioral choices that targeted him for crucifiction
Believing in a god who was not really there for him
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David Smudge wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:41 pm Jesus _ So what's not to like?
Anyone who threatens the supremacy of the Great Beast - the one true god of the state, simply cannot be tolerated much less liked by those in power. The punishment is death in the eyes of the Beast
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As a Jew he liked Jews; he didn't like gentiles. Thought they were the great beast! :lol:
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I'm sure he was a nice person, if he ever existed. It's kristians who are the problem.
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Worldwide persecution of Christians is attempting to eliminate your problem.
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Lacewing wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:36 pm Potentially...

Fanaticism
Blatant behavioral choices that targeted him for crucifiction
Believing in a god who was not really there for him
Asserting that Christ was a believer is a huge, unwarrented assumption.  The underlying principle of Christianity is eternal life, not an eternal and unchanging mortality. 
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David Smudge wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:41 pm Jesus _ So what's not to like?
His teachings of love and conscience did make the world a better place.
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Lacewing wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:36 pm Potentially...

Fanaticism
Blatant behavioral choices that targeted him for crucifiction
Believing in a god who was not really there for him
Or he could have been believing in a personified separate presence that was not really there.

There was never any sacrifice since being present was all that could be known to be just a dream anyway, and so any fear of death would have been totally diminished.

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:21 am
Lacewing wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:36 pm Believing in a god who was not really there for him
Or he could have been believing in a personified separate presence that was not really there.

There was never any sacrifice since being present was all that could be known to be just a dream anyway, and so any fear of death would have been totally diminished.
My response was based on what has been written about him in the Bible. Apparently he felt that his Father deserted him -- he asked "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" And apparently he also begged his god to not go through with the plan that would result in his death.
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Lacewing
My response was based on what has been written about him in the Bible. Apparently he felt that his Father deserted him -- he asked "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" And apparently he also begged his god to not go through with the plan that would result in his death.
A good example of the inability of the secular to understand the sacred and why esoteric Christianity must be an oral tradition in order to retain its value..
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David Smudge wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:41 pm Jesus _ So what's not to like?
Original sin. The idea that babies are guilty, just for being born, and have to surrender their critical faculties the moment they acquire them, to be pardoned for what someone who listened to a talking snake did. The punishment for not doing so being eternal torture. That your weaknesses can be absolved by the torture and murder of another human being. In short, Christianity.
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David Smudge wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:41 pm Jesus _ So what's not to like?
"Like"? Was His concern ever to make Himself merely "likeable"? "Unobjectionable," maybe? A matter of neutrality and indifference, perhaps? :shock:

Hardly that!
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