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Time’s running out: Trump’s terrible choices on North Korea
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North Korea Nuclear Timeline Fast Facts
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/world/asi ... index.html

put nuclear missiles in every American military base in Japan

when china screams, bring in more

what good is mutually assured destruction if you're going to be destroyed?

sooner or later we'll burn it all

-Imp

I sort of doubt KJU is so ridiculously insane that he's going to bring about the destruction of his own country and himself along with it. He's not going to launch a real first strike against the US for fear of retaliation. If he wasn't interested in steering clear of dire consequences, he would have invaded South Korea years ago. Like it or not, this is a waiting game and one of diplomacy. Most of us here are adults. We've been through this shit before with much savvier opponents like the Soviet Union. If NK were to attack first, they may get a few of us, but even they know it's 100% guaranteed annihilation for KJU and his whole country. I think the threat is being extremely exaggerated by some in the media. No need to stir up panic and pandemonium. In fact that's probably pretty much all KJU wants to do. I say give it time and patience and the North Koreans themselves may get sick of KJU and oust him. Most people are aware North Korea is a dungeon, even the Chinese and Russians.

and comrade obama's deal with Iran guarantees peaceful utopia

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:36 pm and comrade obama's deal with Iran guarantees peaceful utopia

-Imp

Not a good comment, Impertinent. I think many of us just want to peacefully coexist. I don't think Iran poses much of an existential threat to the US if we don't act with hostility toward them. Obama acted like a relatively responsible leader toward Iran. Nuclear proliferation is, unfortunately, inevitable. Creating tension, issuing ultimatums and threats doesn't help anything. Acting out of fear is not a good.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:41 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:36 pm and comrade obama's deal with Iran guarantees peaceful utopia

-Imp

Not a good comment, Impertinent. I think many of us just want to peacefully coexist. I don't think Iran poses much of an existential threat to the US if we don't act with hostility toward them. Obama acted like a relatively responsible leader toward Iran. Nuclear proliferation is, unfortunately, inevitable. Creating tension, issuing ultimatums and threats doesn't help anything. Acting out of fear is not a good.

every jihadist wants to peacefully coexist...

Iran would never buy nuclear missiles from N Korea

your government master LOVES you

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:46 pmyour government master LOVES you

-Imp

Not as much as your government master doesn't give a fuck about you.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:36 pm and comrade obama's deal with Iran guarantees peaceful utopia

-Imp

Do you mean like the Utopia the US has created in the ME?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:24 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:36 pm and comrade obama's deal with Iran guarantees peaceful utopia

-Imp

Do you mean like the Utopia the US has created in the ME?

He means like if N. Korea misses the US and bombs the shit out of your country.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:28 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:24 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:36 pm and comrade obama's deal with Iran guarantees peaceful utopia

-Imp

Do you mean like the Utopia the US has created in the ME?

He means like if N. Korea misses the US and bombs the shit out of your country.

PhilX

American nuclear weapons are so much more virtuous than anyone else's. We can all feel safe knowing they are in godly hands.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:44 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:28 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:24 pm
Do you mean like the Utopia the US has created in the ME?

He means like if N. Korea misses the US and bombs the shit out of your country.

PhilX

American nuclear weapons are so much more virtuous than anyone else's. We can all feel safe knowing they are in godly hands.

Doesn't help your case when smiley from N. Korea gets you, does it? Better hope our anti-ballistic system takes care of the N. Korean missiles.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:51 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:44 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:28 pm

He means like if N. Korea misses the US and bombs the shit out of your country.

PhilX

American nuclear weapons are so much more virtuous than anyone else's. We can all feel safe knowing they are in godly hands.

Doesn't help your case when smiley from N. Korea gets you, does it? Better hope our anti-ballistic system takes care of the N. Korean missiles.

PhilX

What the hell makes you think your'e any better, or that the whole world loves you? Talk about deluded.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:58 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:51 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:44 pm
American nuclear weapons are so much more virtuous than anyone else's. We can all feel safe knowing they are in godly hands.

Doesn't help your case when smiley from N. Korea gets you, does it? Better hope our anti-ballistic system takes care of the N. Korean missiles.

PhilX

What the hell makes you think your'e any better, or that the whole world loves you? Talk about deluded.

Non-responsive (and you misspelled you're). You're full of delusions.

PhilX

Since you don't say where you're from, how can you speak for the rest of the world?

“Donald Trump told Tim Russert in an interview nearly 20 years ago that "the biggest problem this world has is nuclear proliferation" and that it would be ‘good to sit down and negotiate’ with North Korea before the situation spirals out of control.”

- Business Insider
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-19 ... ess-2017-8

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The can has been kicked down the road to the current situation.

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:33 pm “Donald Trump told Tim Russert in an interview nearly 20 years ago that "the biggest problem this world has is nuclear proliferation" and that it would be ‘good to sit down and negotiate’ with North Korea before the situation spirals out of control.”

- Business Insider
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-19 ... ess-2017-8

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The can has been kicked down the road to the current situation.

Yes, but much has changed in 20 years so I wouldn't rely on the interview. From what I gather, the situation is complicated.

PhilX