The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:49 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:19 am …..
Quite admirable, Flash, but the points I made about IC’s centrism still stand. And that Liberal societies of the past were ‘sanely so’ because of a general social conservatism.
There's no truth of the matter when it comes to a simplified geometric metaphor defining political, social, religious, economic and I don't know how many other types of belief all into one single line.

Mannie believes that Hitler belongs at the far left of that line, and considers himself - along with Trump - to be at the centre of it. I think suggestions that IC is far to the right of Hitler are a bit excessive but once we are able to deploy propositions with such content I think the the whole concept has already fallen apart.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:02 amIsn't that Globohomo thing something about a big Jewish conspiracy to rob the West of vitality and vigour?
Globohomo is your tribe's uncanny impulse to insert LGBTQMAP+ into every visible orifice of waking life, commercials, banners, tv shows, movies, step outside and it's in your face, retreat inside and it's in your face, hide your little child porn books in Kindergarten classrooms, try to kidnap Conservative children and take them to stripshows.

That's all your kind is about, and you know it well, don't feign ignorance on your most beloved, Marxist strategy. That's your pride & joy.

FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:02 amYour nostalgia is for a time when wives kept quiet after a good beating and black folks had a particular side of the tracks they were allowed to live. It can't be resurrected and just wasn't as good as you like to imagine anyway.
Bad times (Now) always come after Good times (1950s). Eventually there will be another Good times, maybe 2050s. When we get there, you'll be deposed, and the Conservative family will once again reign supreme.

FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:08 amTrump was unable to present any court with any credible evidence in any of his cases. The Supreme Court didn't hear his cases because they were desperate and bad and lacked evidentiary basis.
False,

Trump was "unable to present any court" because the Judges were too scared of public pressure in doing so. It's called intimidation. It's called...having a gun to your head. So that is the "Justice" you and your kind, want for Western Civilization. That's the path you chose, and continue to choose. You're not going to like it when the pendulum swings back. But you're too emotional to understand these swings in history. You can't see beyond right now, today.

FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:08 amYou don't know what ad hominem means.
I googled it...and it showed your avatar and name "FlashPoopants".

FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:10 amI've askled you directly a lot of times and still you don't answer. No, a question about other presidents isn't even close to an answer.

So ... Are you saying that if Trump is guilty of multiple felonies, he still shouldn't be prosecuted for them?
You mean...just like the "felony" Trump was impeached for...accidentally discovering your little Ukrainian money-laundering scheme, that Biden used to enrich himself, along with other Biden/Obama Administration officials.

To you and other Democrats/Leftists, it's a "crime" to discover your real crimes. Hence why Trump is now being further, unjustly persecuted and incriminated.

FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:17 amThe social media is full of conservatives whining openly and loudly every day that they had been silenced. Loudest fucking silencing I ever heard.

A privately held platform such as Facebook or Twitter is entitled to set rules for joining in the thing that they privately own. Trump got banned for breaking Terms of Service on those platforms. That's not a free speach issue, it's you demanding to trespass on private property.
So you're not really a Liberal/Neo-Liberal/Libertine...you're a socialist.

You don't actually have any liberal values, and do not advocate for Free Speech for your political opposition. Typical.

FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:21 amThat's some weird nonsense about the BRICS.
The original acronym "BRIC", or "the BRICs", was coined in 2001 by Goldman Sachs economist Jim O'Neill to describe fast-growing economies that he predicted would collectively dominate the global economy by 2050.
You can't really say that Biden has done lots for Putin but also complain that Biden has supplied the weaponry that has demolished Russia's reputation as the world's second best military.
My point stands. Biden is the worst thing to happen to Western Civilization, started BRICS, allowed Ukraine to be invaded.

Weak on all points. Trump is the strength the West needs right now. He is respected by the world, and your rightful Leader.

FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:32 amThat's wrong in all sorts of ways.

The price of the dollar is set by supply and demand same as the prices for most things.
So you agree with me without even realizing it.

Cutting US domestic oil production DOES reduce the supply, dummy.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:57 amThere's no truth of the matter when it comes to a simplified geometric metaphor defining political, social, religious, economic and I don't know how many other types of belief all into one single line.

Mannie believes that Hitler belongs at the far left of that line, and considers himself - along with Trump - to be at the centre of it. I think suggestions that IC is far to the right of Hitler are a bit excessive but once we are able to deploy propositions with such content I think the the whole concept has already fallen apart.
Okay I'll bite, I'm curious...how exactly is IC "right of Hitler", what does that even mean in your pea-brain?

Then again, you think real liberals, who actually believe in Free Speech for their political opposition, are Nazis.
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:24 am
Sculptor wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:16 amYou live in a fantasy world.
Where the fuck do you get this stuff.??
I love how ignorant you are, LOL!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/20 ... a086444ef4

https://www.npr.org/sections/president- ... d%20waters.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/biden-s ... es-of.html


Anymore idiocies tonight, Sculpty, before I log out for a few days??

I think I've covered most of it you and Poopants regurgitated tonight...
Your brain is simply not recieving information.
Not sure what I can do to help you, because I think you are a lost cause.
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Sculptor wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:31 amYour brain is simply not recieving information.
Not sure what I can do to help you, because I think you are a lost cause.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:57 am There's no truth of the matter when it comes to a simplified geometric metaphor defining political, social, religious, economic and I don't know how many other types of belief all into one single line.
There is *truth in the matter* in respect to the points that I made.
Mannie believes that Hitler belongs at the far left of that line, and considers himself - along with Trump - to be at the centre of it. I think suggestions that IC is far to the right of Hitler are a bit excessive but once we are able to deploy propositions with such content I think the the whole concept has already fallen apart.
Now you're venturing into other territories.

You seem to have a tendency to convolute issues and questions through a strategy of expansion. If the topic is now What is the core origin of the Hitlerian National Socialism it might be an interesting conversation. I can see why -- contrary to general assumptions -- that Hitler movement can be seen as Left oriented -- but we would lose ourselves in bickering over non-essential points if we tried to force a label. It would have to be looked at through a range of considerations it seems to me.
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:21 am ...on the dozens of philosophy forums I've frequented
Great, go be stupid somewhere else.
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:48 amGreat, go be stupid somewhere else.
I can't. I'm here because somebody kept putting porn in my local Elementary school's library. Now I've found the culprits, here.

Weren't you saying something about "banned books" before? Why'd you get so defensive?
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:25 am... what does that even mean in your pea-brain?
Irony bombs incoming!
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mickthinks wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:53 amIrony bombs incoming!
You misspelled "Irish".
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:21 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:02 amIsn't that Globohomo thing something about a big Jewish conspiracy to rob the West of vitality and vigour?
Globohomo is your tribe's uncanny impulse to insert LGBTQMAP+ into every visible orifice of waking life, commercials, banners, tv shows, movies, step outside and it's in your face, retreat inside and it's in your face, hide your little child porn books in Kindergarten classrooms, try to kidnap Conservative children and take them to stripshows.

That's all your kind is about, and you know it well, don't feign ignorance on your most beloved, Marxist strategy. That's your pride & joy.
So your opener is Judeo-Bolshevik conspiracy theory. It looks like you are assuming some stuff about Jews controlling the media as well?
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:21 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:02 amYour nostalgia is for a time when wives kept quiet after a good beating and black folks had a particular side of the tracks they were allowed to live. It can't be resurrected and just wasn't as good as you like to imagine anyway.
Bad times (Now) always come after Good times (1950s). Eventually there will be another Good times, maybe 2050s. When we get there, you'll be deposed, and the Conservative family will once again reign supreme.
Which bits of the 50s are you most excited to bring back? Is it the right to rape your wife if she holds out on her wifely duties? Or is it just the segregated schools and the Jim Crow election laws?
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:21 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:08 amTrump was unable to present any court with any credible evidence in any of his cases. The Supreme Court didn't hear his cases because they were desperate and bad and lacked evidentiary basis.
False,

Trump was "unable to present any court" because the Judges were too scared of public pressure in doing so. It's called intimidation. It's called...having a gun to your head. So that is the "Justice" you and your kind, want for Western Civilization. That's the path you chose, and continue to choose. You're not going to like it when the pendulum swings back. But you're too emotional to understand these swings in history. You can't see beyond right now, today.
Your current conspiracy theory is a bit vague. Are you saying that federal judges are all under lock and key, or all have actual guns to their heads, or are you just saying that all the federal judges are a bit shy of criticism and this effect issufficient for them to throw amazing excellent cases out of court as if they were total idiotic dogshit?

Whatever it is must be wieghed against the competing theory that they all got thrown out for being actual nonsense.
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:21 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:08 amYou don't know what ad hominem means.
I googled it...and it showed your avatar and name "FlashPoopants".
...
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:21 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:10 amI've askled you directly a lot of times and still you don't answer. No, a question about other presidents isn't even close to an answer.

So ... Are you saying that if Trump is guilty of multiple felonies, he still shouldn't be prosecuted for them?
You mean...just like the "felony" Trump was impeached for...accidentally discovering your little Ukrainian money-laundering scheme, that Biden used to enrich himself, along with other Biden/Obama Administration officials.

To you and other Democrats/Leftists, it's a "crime" to discover your real crimes. Hence why Trump is now being further, unjustly persecuted and incriminated.
Why can't you just answer a direct question? Are you saying that if Trump is guilty of multiple felonies, he still shouldn't be prosecuted for them?
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:21 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:17 amThe social media is full of conservatives whining openly and loudly every day that they had been silenced. Loudest fucking silencing I ever heard.

A privately held platform such as Facebook or Twitter is entitled to set rules for joining in the thing that they privately own. Trump got banned for breaking Terms of Service on those platforms. That's not a free speach issue, it's you demanding to trespass on private property.
So you're not really a Liberal/Neo-Liberal/Libertine...you're a socialist.

You don't actually have any liberal values, and do not advocate for Free Speech for your political opposition. Typical.
It is the opposite of socialism to assert that a private company has the right to enforce terms and conditins for the service it provides.
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:21 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:21 amThat's some weird nonsense about the BRICS.
The original acronym "BRIC", or "the BRICs", was coined in 2001 by Goldman Sachs economist Jim O'Neill to describe fast-growing economies that he predicted would collectively dominate the global economy by 2050.
You can't really say that Biden has done lots for Putin but also complain that Biden has supplied the weaponry that has demolished Russia's reputation as the world's second best military.
My point stands. Biden is the worst thing to happen to Western Civilization, started BRICS, allowed Ukraine to be invaded.

Weak on all points. Trump is the strength the West needs right now. He is respected by the world, and your rightful Leader.
I already showed you that the BRICs were created in 2001, you simply cannot pin that on Biden. Not that it matters, the BRICs are not a problem and I don't see any reason they are being discussed here at all.

The most openly fascitic thing that you have ever written is "Trump is the strength the West needs right now. He is respected by the world, and your rightful Leader." That's all sorts of fucked up.
Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:21 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:32 amThat's wrong in all sorts of ways.

The price of the dollar is set by supply and demand same as the prices for most things.
So you agree with me without even realizing it.

Cutting US domestic oil production DOES reduce the supply, dummy.
Look at the graph. Ask yourself who was president when the production was cut.
Fucking idiot.
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:51 am
Lacewing wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:48 amGreat, go be stupid somewhere else.
Weren't you saying something about "banned books" before?
I was responding to someone else about the larger issue of classic books that have been banned. You responded with your usual tunnel-vision extremism. The distortions you carry on with are dishonest. Broader truth doesn't serve your agenda.
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:29 pmI was responding to someone else about the larger issue of classic books that have been banned. You responded with your usual tunnel-vision extremism. The distortions you carry on with are dishonest. Broader truth doesn't serve your agenda.
Wait....so you agree with the evil Nazis, to ban My Two Dads in Elementary schools now...which is it?

You're not a...Nazi, are you Lace?!
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Wizard22 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:34 pm Wait....so you agree with the evil Nazis, to ban My Two Dads in Elementary schools now...which is it?
I haven't read it -- have you? A lot of kids are dealing with two moms and two dads these days, so maybe it's a helpful book.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:55 am I dread to think what the bio-labs bit is supposed to be, but I suspect it isn't true, or 'admitted' and very unlikely to to be something the Democrats did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydSf57SRtcQ (the vid's under 2 min.)That's Deputy Secretary of State for the Biden administration, Victoria Nuland.

And before you say what she says -- that they're "biomedical research facilities," not something sinister, ask yourself two questions: 1. If they're benign, why is Nuland concerned at all about them "falling into Russian hands"? Russia has a long history with ordinary biolabs of its own...a few more in its hands would be unremarkable; 2) Why would the U.S. be involved with ANY biolabs in Ukraine? :shock: America has its own biolabs at home and elsewhere in the world. Would they not know that putting biolabs in Ukraine would be provocative to Putin? Why didn't they just keep their "research facilities" a nice distance away?

What were they up to?
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