AlexW wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:27 am
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:08 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:10 pm
Certain knowledge is impossible for finite beings such as humans, ...
Since you are human you are claiming you have no certain knowledge, and from what you've written, I'd say you've proved it.
In order to express knowledge one has to use language - which is nothing but verbally expressed conceptual thought.
Conceptual thought is the only tool we have at our disposal to describe and interpret whatever is being directly experienced.
It is a tool that only works within the realm of relativity (one could even go one step further and state: Language/conceptual thought is relativity itself).
Attempting to use a tool which only works within the relative, in order to express absolute truth, will as such never be successful - no matter how much one might believe that thought can do such a thing.
Here is ANOTHER EXAMPLE of expressing something, through language, as though it is an absolute truth.
Saying something WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL is attempting to express an ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
If what what you are doing here is attempting to use a tool, which only works within the relative, in order to express absolute truth, then this will NEVER be successful. In orders if you are attempting to use the tool of language, and words, to express what you are here, then this WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL. Therefore, what you just attempted to CLAIM IS TRUE, will NEVER be true.
Therefore what you CLAIMED here could NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL, may, IN FACT, BE SUCCESSFUL, after all.
As I pointed out earlier, EVERY time someone CLAIMS that something like, absolute truth CAN NOT be known, NOR could be expressed, also HAVE TO ADMIT that their CLAIM is NOT true AT ALL.
Would you ADMIT this?
AlexW wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:27 am
Its simply a matter of finding out what kind of tool language/conceptual thought actually is, to understand it's powers, but also it's limitations (you wouldn't attempt to use a hammer to change a lightbulb, would you?)
This analogy does NOT work.
What kind of tool language/conceptual thought ACTUALLY IS, is one to:
WORK OUT and UNDERSTAND the 'world'/Universe that one finds "them self" in.
Control the behavior of the body that one finds "them self" in. And,
Express and share the feelings of, and within the, body so that that one is HEARD by "others" so that they can and will recognize and accept who One IS and who 'they' ARE.