You picked that up from Satyr, right?
Sez the guy doin' the (bad) Satyr imitation.
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Come on, henry, either the Deist God exists or He doesn't.
I believe He does.
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Either you can demonstrate that He does in fact exist or it all revolves solely around what you believe about Him "in your head"...In a more or less blind leap of faith.
I can't, to
your satisfaction, demonstrate He exists.
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Either your Deist God is omniscient and omnipotent or He isn't.
I don't believe He is omniscient or omnipotent.
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Either it matters to Him which behaviors you choose on this side of the grave or it doesn't.
It doesn't seem to me He's interested.
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Either you will be judged by Him when you shuffle off your mortal coil down here or you won't.
It doesn't seem to me there's an afterlife or any Judgement levied by Him placin' me in some specific afterlife.
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In other words, in the end, what matters more, what you say about Him or what is actually -- demonstrably -- true?
I believe what I say about Him is true; I can't demonstrate, to
your satisfsction, that what I say about Him is true.
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That's just great, henry. Your God creates us. He creates a planet on which we can interact. Savagely if we wish. A planet that is often little more than a ghastly horror show. But why should any mere mortals actually care about that? Shit happens. Let's think of the Deist God as we would that.
It is great. We're free wills, points of creative & causal power. We're free men with natural rights. This is a good deal.
You see
ghastly horror show; I see
challenge.
As for how any of us choose to think of Him: seems to me, He doesn't seem to care way or another.
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Deism, however, is said to be based on reason.
Not by me.
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Yet Deists, just like the rest of us, "follow the dictates of reason and nature" all up and down the moral and political spectrum.
Sez you, not me.
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Or, perhaps, there is one and only one truly rational path to take in regard to the war in Ukraine and abortion and guns?
Morally...
Ukraine: free man, slaver, or slave. Pick which is best for you and live with the consequences.
Abortion: recognize & respect persons or murder them. Pick which is best for you and live with the consequences.
Guns: recognize & respect a man's natural, unalienable right to his property or rob him. Pick which is best for you and live with the consequences.
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Yours?
Yep.
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So, is this the definitive assessment of what is going on there?
Nope. I don't know what's goin' on there. Neither do you. I told you how, whatever it is that's goin' on there, it's bein'
propagandized.
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And, if others don't share it, does that make them "morons", or "simply wrong"?
Both.
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Indeed, no assessment of The State from any of these perspectives...qualify as even being worthy of discussion.
That's correct.
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from my frame of mind
That's an
unhealthy place to be.
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you are a finite being who was born at a particular time historically, in a particular place culturally and then accumulated a particular set of personal experiences, relationships and access to information and knowledge.
No matter
where or
when I am, I am always...
A free will. A free man with a natural, inalienable right to my, and no one else's, life, liberty, and property.
Where and when I'm
situated has no bearing on these truths.
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Including diverse and conflicting assessments about the war in Ukraine.
All these
assessments mean squat. Fact: iterations of The State (an illegitimate construct no matter the iteration) vy with each other. What these iterations vy for: property, control of property (and property, as The State defines it, includes men).
That's it. That's all.
now, somebody ask me What is The State?