Re: What could make morality objective?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:11 pm
If you understood my questions, you'd understand how useless your answers are - how completely they miss the point.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:11 amWhatever is fact is conditioned upon a specific FSK.Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:01 pm Questions for VA - and any other PhD-level quantum physicists following this discussion.
1 Is quantum indeterminacy a fact - a feature of reality - or merely a product of human cognition - itself a product of quantum indeterminacy?
QM is conditioned upon the QM-Scientific FSK.
Therefore QM theories are scientific facts and truths.
If you understand how science works you would never raise the above question.2 Who or what observes the observer effect? Who or what is it that stands above the quantum fray? Is it perhaps the mythical subject, or the equally mythical mind - or, perhaps, Berkeley's omni-god?
You can keep repeating this nonsense as infinitum, and it will still be nonsense. Your invented 'morality FSK' is a question-begging fiction. In reality, it can be nothing more than a code with moral premises, derived from the premise that it's right to avoid evil to enable good, which you kid yourself is not a moral premise, but rather some kind of fact. It's laughable.What is morality is the avoiding of evil to enable good.3 How can we get from quantum mechanics to the fact that X is morally right (good)/wrong (bad, evil)? What valid and sound arguments get us from the one to the other?
The inherent biological fact of 'ought-not-ness-to-kill-humans [to avoid evil] is an objective moral fact within the moral FSK.
This objective physical biological-moral fact is grounded upon the physical brain, neurons, algorithms, DNA, atoms and quarks.
What grounds quarks as objective is the QM FSK.
That is how we link objective moral facts within the moral FSK to QM via the QM FSK.
On the contrary, there can be moral facts only if there are indeed facts - features of reality that are or were the case, independent from opinion. Your reasoning is so twisted that you want to establish moral objectivity on the denial of objectivity. Lol.
Thus if there is no QM FSK and QM facts, then my whole moral FSK falls apart, e.g. if a mind independent God or mind-independent things [your stance] are brought into the picture.