Yes.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:31 pm I've noticed that. He doesn't offer anything that he/she/it can be criticised of..but continuously ruins threads with his/her/its ridiculous childish questioning.
All is energy / God is energy
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Because of all that has become associated with the name and the idea.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:41 pm Actually, you and I appear to believe pretty much the same thing about this entity (Pantheism), so why not just call this being God?
Maybe someday I'll be able to use the name free of all the distortions of the past... but apparently it doesn't feel suitable yet.
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I agree. All apparently separate entities are inter-related.I believe that the only thing that separates one entity from another is the use one entity has for another entity.
If there were a Heaven there would be no separation.
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What would be a valid question to ask of you in response to the paragraph you wrote above? What do you want? Do you approve of the universe as it is? If not, how do you think it should be? What makes you think you know anything? Are any of these questions valid?Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:15 amTo answer you fuly; that is not even a question.Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:59 pmHow do you think it's all supposed to be?Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:17 pm
It would not since you have only to look carefully at the universe to see just how bizarrely absent such an idea is.
The universe we live in is one which lights tour night sky with a supernova on the birth of the baby Jesus, guiding 3 idiotic astrologers, which destroyed an advanced civilisation of a trillion super intelligent beings o a planet under that star.
Its the sort of universe in which we evolve bipedally with the result of chronic back pain, and bad feet.
What makes you think that is a valid question?
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It's tragic that we can't see from the absolute perspective. If we could do so there would be no wars or cruelty.
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'you' are NOT 'supposed' to do absolutely ANT thing.Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:35 pmAh. I don't know what his specific trip is, I just like the way the video described all as energy. Although I, too, think that greater consciousness is useful, I don't think that we're supposed to strive to get back to a god.reasonvemotion wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:00 am Hans Wilhiem is a mystic New Ager (the man in your little video) and appears to be in a lot of confusion and fits into a spiritual perspective what he, they or you have constructed.
They do not believe in evil. Therefore, they do not accept man's problem as separation by sin from God.
Instead, they believe that each of us has forgotten his or her own divinity. Therefore, the New Age solution is to seek "higher consciousness" ...Each of these diverse practices has the same purpose: to awaken the god in man.
'you' are absolutely FREE to do absolutely ANY thing of 'your' OWN CHOOSING.
Like 'your' associations? Or are 'your' associations NEVER 'screwed up'?
WHY do 'you' FEEL the NEED to TELL "others' what 'we' NEED to NOTICE?
And, WHERE does this NEED that 'you' have here come from, EXACTLY?
This here is OBVIOUSLY NOT the ACTUAL Truth of 'things', and just as OBVIOUS, 'you' STILL have a LOT MORE to LEARN and UNDERSTAND here.
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Age is the only one on my ignore list. This makes it much better for reading through threads as it omits his lengthy whining in capital letters -- which usually looks like some kind of psycho note pieced together from cut-out letters of a magazine so that he can tell everyone how wrong they are in his creepy obsessed fashion. Whatever.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:31 pm He continuously ruins threads with his/her/its ridiculous childish questioning.
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It's hard to understand how extreme people have become in their views and behavior. How can they not see how ridiculous and destructive it is? Are they intoxicated or possessed or so full of rage they've gone mad? I imagine something will happen to snap humankind out of that. It's such a senseless path. At the very least, maybe we'll serve as a valuable warning for future generations.
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As you asked for advice, in this particular situation, you should answer your own question. Then, you share it with me for discussion as a form of feedback. I wouldn't advise that in all situations, but I did request your trust, so what you share for feedback in the form of answering your own enquiry should reflect that significance. I think in this way we can quickly move beyond debating any premises that might appear to be in conflict, and actually have a discussion about more than the weather, rather than trying to agree with one another, or bickering.Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:01 pmYes, being. What do we do with that?
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People are just stupid in so many ways. There are so many varied personalities..it does make for a rather interesting world. Unfortunately, when the personality type that sociopath/psychopath combines with religious idiocy...things can get extreme. Then you can end up with loads of them banding together. The same goes for any ideology. The key difference with atheism, is that it can't be blamed as an organised group of "delinquents"!!Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:44 amIt's hard to understand how extreme people have become in their views and behavior. How can they not see how ridiculous and destructive it is? Are they intoxicated or possessed or so full of rage they've gone mad? I imagine something will happen to snap humankind out of that. It's such a senseless path. At the very least, maybe we'll serve as a valuable warning for future generations.
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What happens when fairness answers unfairness?Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:44 amIt's hard to understand how extreme people have become in their views and behavior. How can they not see how ridiculous and destructive it is? Are they intoxicated or possessed or so full of rage they've gone mad? I imagine something will happen to snap humankind out of that. It's such a senseless path. At the very least, maybe we'll serve as a valuable warning for future generations.
It's a rhetorical question.
Because of what does happen, unfairness begins to answer unfairness.
Now, it should not be hard to understand.
(As you notice, this is the doing of what I advised, at your request, in my previous posting. I answer my own question, and offer it to you for feedback, which is not required btw, if you have nothing to say).
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The way I see it, all that critical attention (energy) should be directed inward.attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:55 amPeople are just stupid in so many ways. There are so many varied personalities..it does make for a rather interesting world. Unfortunately, when the personality type that sociopath/psychopath combines with religious idiocy...things can get extreme. Then you can end up with loads of them banding together. The same goes for any ideology. The key difference with atheism, is that it can't be blamed as an organised group of "delinquents"!!Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:44 amIt's hard to understand how extreme people have become in their views and behavior. How can they not see how ridiculous and destructive it is? Are they intoxicated or possessed or so full of rage they've gone mad? I imagine something will happen to snap humankind out of that. It's such a senseless path. At the very least, maybe we'll serve as a valuable warning for future generations.
You obviously disagree. Please, don't justify why it's not directed inward. I don't care to debate it. Just an observation.
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The BEST WAY to UNDERSTAND "another" is to just ask Truly OPEN CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, and then WAIT for Truly OPEN and Honest replies to THOSE QUESTIONS.
What do 'you' think or IMAGINE 'I' could possibly be HIDING behind ASKING QUESTIONS "lacewing"? REMEMBER, if I am NOT be QUESTIONED and CHALLENGED, then I have NOTHING to HIDE.
Also, has it REALLY NEVER even occurred to 'you' that I ASK QUESTIONS to just GAIN CLARITY and A BETTER UNDERSTANDING?
Or, do 'you' REALLY think or BELIEVE that EVERY one has to behave in the WAY that 'you' do here?
WHY NOT?
Do you have ANY ACTUAL PROOF for YOUR BELIEF here?
Actually, do you have ANY ACTUAL REASON for YOUR BELIEF here?
The 'AM' refers to the BEING, (in the) HERE-NOW.
The 'I' refers to thee One and ONLY Being, which IS thee One and ONLY Universe, Itself. SEEN, with the visible eyes as the physical matter, AND, SEEN, KNOWN and UNDERSTOOD by thee invisible Mind''s Eye.
There IS, by the way, ANOTHER 'thing', besides the 'I AM', which is KNOWN, for sure.
YES.
AND, what is 'it', if NOT 'absolute', when 'it' IS AGREED UPON by EVERY one?
Will 'you' SHARE ANY of 'your' INSPIRATION with 'us' here in this forum?
If no, then WHY NOT?
Is this one of these NOT One Truths? Or, is this True or is it NOT?Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:41 pm I think whatever meaning we find in life is part of the artwork of our own experience. One person's meaning is not another's, and that's okay! We don't have to agree. What really matters is what we do with it. And that's the tricky part because people do very different things with the 'meaning' they see. Since it's surely impossible that infinite perspectives are going to see everything the same way,
Seems like 'you' are ALLOWED to EXPRESS what 'you' CLAIM to be ABSOLUTE Truths, although 'you' BELIEVE absolutely NONE exist.
BUT, there IS A WAY WHERE EVERY one, or ALL, do SEE Everything the SAME WAY, and which, by the way, is WHERE BALANCE EXISTS ALSO.
HOWEVER, WHEN people like "yourself", "lacewing", who have and HOLD ONTO VERY STRONG BELIEFS, then 'you' become completely BLINDED and CLOSED to LEARNING and SEEING NEW 'things'. Like, for example, DIFFERENT WAYS of LOOKING AT and SEEING 'things'. BECAUSE of 'your' BELIEFS 'you' are, literally, STUCK in the PERSPECTIVE that 'you' OBVIOUSLY HAVE and are HOLDING ONTO, right now.
NO.
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Well, since a sage\God after a long time of insisting I am a sap a fool, now insists I am perfect. So, if there is anything disagreable about me, then certainly those with disagreement should probably self analyse.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:13 amThe way I see it, all that critical attention (energy) should be directed inward.attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:55 amPeople are just stupid in so many ways. There are so many varied personalities..it does make for a rather interesting world. Unfortunately, when the personality type that sociopath/psychopath combines with religious idiocy...things can get extreme. Then you can end up with loads of them banding together. The same goes for any ideology. The key difference with atheism, is that it can't be blamed as an organised group of "delinquents"!!Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:44 am
It's hard to understand how extreme people have become in their views and behavior. How can they not see how ridiculous and destructive it is? Are they intoxicated or possessed or so full of rage they've gone mad? I imagine something will happen to snap humankind out of that. It's such a senseless path. At the very least, maybe we'll serve as a valuable warning for future generations.
Woops!!