I'm not gnostic...not sure what Crom, a deist's god, has to do with gnosticism.
Anyway: good to see you, guy...it's been a little while.
I'm not gnostic...not sure what Crom, a deist's god, has to do with gnosticism.
Imagine if he wrote: "Christians ignore atonement, and the cross is immaterial to them and utterly irrelevant." Would anybody believe him?
There's all kinda mish-mashes of christian-fill in the _____.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:00 pmImagine if he wrote: "Christians ignore atonement, and the cross is immaterial to them and utterly irrelevant." Would anybody believe him?
And yet, he insists that there's such a thing as a "Christian Gnostic."
Go figure.
The last time I checked there is no copyright on the term, "Christian." There is no universally accepted meaning of that word, which is why the world is filled with religions that call themselves Christian, including the syncretistic versions of Christianity mixing voodoo and animism with Biblical teaching in Africa and South America, Christian Science, Mormonism, even political parties. The term Christian includes innumerable ideologies and superstitions.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:09 am Ignore the word "cult" if you want. It won't change anything. Gnosticism is not at all Christian, and cannot be, regardless of what anybody claims. Anybody who thinks otherwise simply has no idea what a "Christian" is.
Oh, that's for sure.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:15 pm Seems to me: a lotta folks are invested in watering Christianity down.
Actually, there is.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:29 pmThe last time I checked there is no copyright on the term, "Christian."Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:09 am Ignore the word "cult" if you want. It won't change anything. Gnosticism is not at all Christian, and cannot be, regardless of what anybody claims. Anybody who thinks otherwise simply has no idea what a "Christian" is.
Well, you, like everyone else, are entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:39 pmActually, there is.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:29 pmThe last time I checked there is no copyright on the term, "Christian."Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:09 am Ignore the word "cult" if you want. It won't change anything. Gnosticism is not at all Christian, and cannot be, regardless of what anybody claims. Anybody who thinks otherwise simply has no idea what a "Christian" is.
Christ retains the right to define it. And after that, it matters not a whit what anybody else thinks. Belonging to Christ is decided by what He knows, not by what anybody else says.
Which applies to all Christians, given that Jesus was never elected to be anointed nor was he ever anointed to Christ by his people.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:47 amI have no idea what you are. But I know what the Gnostic texts say Gnostics think. I have many of them here, on my shelf.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:08 amApologies buddy but you know the Gnostic Christian myth but not the reality...It's complicated, but that was it, in a nutshell.
And I promise you, there is no such thing at all as "Christian Gnosticism," any more than there's "Christian Zoroastrianism," "Christian Islamism" or "Christian Satanism." What there is, is a cultic group who call themselves "Christian Gnostics," and who employ (for their own purposes) motifs and characters borrowed from Christian traditions, but whose beliefs are contrary to everything Christians actually believe. And they have absolutely no justification for using that adjective at all.
I do not think he was meant to discriminate against other deserving of death characters.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:26 amI thought Fud was an anti-wabbit.
So, you're pro-wabbit?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:00 pmI do not think he was meant to discriminate against other deserving of death characters.
Collateral damage was not an issue the way it is with religions and their gay and female victims.
I like the left but the right has got to smarten up.
Regards
DL
Good point.Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:01 pm Greatest I Am quoted:
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
This is a claim for idealism(immaterialism) and also for that variety of panpsychism
that claims the existence of absolute mind.
Because a hole Christians continue to discriminate against women and gays without a just cause, likely due to adoring a genocidal p**** of a god.seeds wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:04 pmHow many times do I have to point out that if there is indeed a transcendent Entity that is responsible for the creation of the trillions upon trillions of suns and planets of this universe,...Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:03 amShow his genocidal ass at the Haigh in handcuff and leg irons. Hopefully with a signed confession and scion ide pill already working.
He is not worth my bullet with his vile name on it.
Regards
DL
...then this Entity is as far above humans in scope and consciousness as humans are above amoebas, and bears absolutely no resemblance to the anthropomorphized nonsense that you keep ranting about in your posts.
Normally I would implore you to try and extricate yourself from the delusional bubble in which you are shadow-boxing with a mythological creature, but you seem to be enjoying it far too much to want to quit.
My only question is: why do you focus so intensely on just Yahweh when there are so many other mythological gods you could complain about?
For example, check out this list I collected from a site called "Museum Facts" [bracketed comments mine]:
And that's just a small handful of candidates for you to rail against, never mind the ones in Greek, Roman, Hindu, Japanese, and various other mythologies.Museum Facts wrote:
Let’s take a look at the 12 Evil Gods you should steer clear of!
1) Chernobog- the Slavic god of bad fate
2) Set- a murderous evil Egyptian god
3) Sekhmet- the punisher of humankind
4) Hel- the cruel ruler of the Norse Underworld
5) Loviatar- the Finnish god of death and disease
6) Whiro- the embodiment of all evil
7) Apophis- the evil god who embodied chaos [presently reincarnated as Donald Trump]
8] Lamashtu- the evil god who menaced women [again, Donald Trump]
9) Lilith- the demoness who vowed revenge on all men
10) Ahriman- the evil god of strife and disappointment [dang, Trump again]
11) Adro- the evil African deity
12) Nergal- the evil god who killed people on a whim
So, again, why focus and expend all of your vitriol and disdain on just poor old mythical Yahweh when there are so many others to choose from?
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Eh.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:00 pmImagine if he wrote: "Christians ignore atonement, and the cross is immaterial to them and utterly irrelevant." Would anybody believe him?
And yet, he insists that there's such a thing as a "Christian Gnostic."
Go figure.
All definitions are softening and as an esoteric ecumenist, I think that that is a good thing.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:15 pmThere's all kinda mish-mashes of christian-fill in the _____.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:00 pmImagine if he wrote: "Christians ignore atonement, and the cross is immaterial to them and utterly irrelevant." Would anybody believe him?
And yet, he insists that there's such a thing as a "Christian Gnostic."
Go figure.
I think there's even christian-deism...lord knows how that works.
Seems to me: a lotta folks are invested in watering Christianity down.