What god, what design?
Blame is the province of man. Man apportions it and man deals in punishment or reward.
Such practice teaches and deters.
Which part do you want me to open/elaborate on?Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:21 amWhich is all VERY CONVENIENT for you to say now, correct?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:08 amThese are off-topic. Back to OP.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:05 am
So, if "we are minds", as you CLAIM 'we' ARE, then WHY do also 'you' say that " 'we' HAVE minds? "
How EXACTLY can 'we' be BOTH "a mind" and "have a mind"?
So, when 'you' use the 'I' word before when saying, "I am not doing anything wrong", then were 'you' implying or inferring that that 'I' is NOT a person?
'What' EXACTLY is supposedly "not true" here?
So what?
What has that got to do with what I said here?
So, although you BELIEVE you are able to tell "others" what IS TRUE and what IS NOT TRUE about the "world" around them, you also now BELIEVE that you tell "others" what thoughts THERE ARE or THERE ARE NOT in other heads.
'you', "bahman", appear to have a VERY STRONG 'superiority' complex.
LOL
SO, "whatever" I said, to you, is just NOT TRUE.
Okay. That SAYS and EXPLAINS a LOT about WHY you write what you write and about the WAY that you write what you write.
That way you do NOT have to LOOK AT what I am POINTING OUT and SHOWING, which are the ERRORS in YOUR way.
By the way, without CLARITY YOUR opening post is NONSENSICAL.
The parts where I have ALREADY posed CLARIFYING questions to you.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:34 amWhich part do you want me to open/elaborate on?
You MISSED and/or MISCONSTRUED most of posts the FIRST TIME.
Oh come on. You cannot just let it go. Do you think that God has the right to blame anybody when everything is His design? There are people who believe so.
First, what people BELIEVE or DO NOT BELIEVE is of NO real concern NOR issue here.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:01 amOh come on. You cannot just let it go. Do you think that God has the right to blame anybody when everything is His design? There are people who believe so.
It is a very important issue and that is why I challenge them?Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:08 amFirst, what people BELIEVE or DO NOT BELIEVE is of NO real concern NOR issue here.
Off-topic.
Ahan, so you think that God knows everything? He knows for example whether I am taking a sip of tea or not?Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:08 am But, if there IS a God, then God does NOT blame human beings for what they do. This is because God ALREADY KNOWS EXACTLY WHY human beings do ALL of what they do. There is A REASON WHY human beings HAVE EVOLVED the way that they have. And God ALREADY KNOWS this reason ALSO.
I am talking about Catholic God in here. They call God He.
If 'I' was 'you' I would START by challenging your OWN BELIEFS, FIRST. Instead of being concerned about "other's" BELIEFS.
LOL
Are you asking me or telling me? You rarely, if ever, write questions in question form. And, you write a lot of statements/claims with a question mark at the end.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:51 pmAhan, so you think that God knows everything?Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:08 am But, if there IS a God, then God does NOT blame human beings for what they do. This is because God ALREADY KNOWS EXACTLY WHY human beings do ALL of what they do. There is A REASON WHY human beings HAVE EVOLVED the way that they have. And God ALREADY KNOWS this reason ALSO.
Again are you asking or telling 'me'?
Again, that is ONLY 'you' human beings who call God a "he". NO ONE ELSE DOES. Now, does what 'you', human beings, call some 'thing' make that ABSOLUTELY True, Right, AND Correct?
Off-topic.
Off-topic.
I am asking you.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 amAre you asking me or telling me? You rarely, if ever, write questions in question form. And, you write a lot of statements/claims with a question mark at the end.bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:51 pmAhan, so you think that God knows everything?Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:08 am But, if there IS a God, then God does NOT blame human beings for what they do. This is because God ALREADY KNOWS EXACTLY WHY human beings do ALL of what they do. There is A REASON WHY human beings HAVE EVOLVED the way that they have. And God ALREADY KNOWS this reason ALSO.
If you are asking me whether I think that God knows everything, then my answer is NO. I KNOW God KNOWS EVERY thing. And this is because I ALREADY KNOW what God is and how It works.
So God can tell me that I drink tea for example in advance? I just do the opposite of what God tells me.
They call God Him, Father, etc. By the way, aren't you a Jesus believer?Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 amAgain, that is ONLY 'you' human beings who call God a "he". NO ONE ELSE DOES. Now, does what 'you', human beings, call some 'thing' make that ABSOLUTELY True, Right, AND Correct?
Also, there is NO actual, so called, "catholic God" at all. So speaking about "this" would be similar to talking about and CLAIMING that there is a "leprechaun unicorn", and this implying or inferring that there is some actual truth to this.
AGAIN, are you ASKING or TELLING me?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:36 amOff-topic.
Off-topic.
I am asking you.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 amAre you asking me or telling me? You rarely, if ever, write questions in question form. And, you write a lot of statements/claims with a question mark at the end.
If you are asking me whether I think that God knows everything, then my answer is NO. I KNOW God KNOWS EVERY thing. And this is because I ALREADY KNOW what God is and how It works.
So God can tell me that I drink tea for example in advance?
This implies that you were TELLING me.
Who does this?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:36 amThey call God Him, Father, etc.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 amAgain, that is ONLY 'you' human beings who call God a "he". NO ONE ELSE DOES. Now, does what 'you', human beings, call some 'thing' make that ABSOLUTELY True, Right, AND Correct?
Also, there is NO actual, so called, "catholic God" at all. So speaking about "this" would be similar to talking about and CLAIMING that there is a "leprechaun unicorn", and this implying or inferring that there is some actual truth to this.
This is a PRIME EXAMPLE of WHY I continually suggest that 'you', human beings, CLARIFY BEFORE making ASSUMPTIONS.
I am asking.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:51 amAGAIN, are you ASKING or TELLING me?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:36 amOff-topic.
Off-topic.
I am asking you.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 am
Are you asking me or telling me? You rarely, if ever, write questions in question form. And, you write a lot of statements/claims with a question mark at the end.
If you are asking me whether I think that God knows everything, then my answer is NO. I KNOW God KNOWS EVERY thing. And this is because I ALREADY KNOW what God is and how It works.
So God can tell me that I drink tea for example in advance?
When will you learn to write questions properly AND correctly?
Proof for what? That I can ask whether I can decide to drink or not?
Catholic.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 amWho does this?bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:36 amThey call God Him, Father, etc.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:30 am
Again, that is ONLY 'you' human beings who call God a "he". NO ONE ELSE DOES. Now, does what 'you', human beings, call some 'thing' make that ABSOLUTELY True, Right, AND Correct?
Also, there is NO actual, so called, "catholic God" at all. So speaking about "this" would be similar to talking about and CLAIMING that there is a "leprechaun unicorn", and this implying or inferring that there is some actual truth to this.
Yeah, you told me that whatever you think is right. Do you think that Jesus is right?