Re: Race versus culture
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:52 pm
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I am afraid that may be correct. Did you read about (Guardian today)how our universities' finances are to a dangerous extent controlled by the fat cats? Our universities among our last fortresses of honest service to truth and people.
I strongly doubt if you dominate anything.
Seleucus wrote:Since colored immigration isn't stopping and birthrates are about triple the native population's, your people can be expected to lose majority status and political control somewhere around 2050.
Seleucus wrote:Maybe they want just as you say no doubt. I am under no obligation to sacrifice my or my peoples, friends and family's prosperity and safety to accommodate these people. They are a dangerous threat. ...
You Yanks always need an enemy don't you, no doubt because you have no culture of your own.That tiger looking at you, he is only hungry, have you no pity?
So why not use the fork then? Why do you use skin-colour instead?Seleucus wrote:Since race, language, culture and spiritual tradition tend to be bundled, we can track any one if we wish to be able to identify our kin peoples. We could look for racial qualities like facial phenotypes and complexion, or we could look at cultural items like eating with a fork, or we could look at a true shibboleth like the Indo-European sound laws: just as essentially all Oriental peoples cannot make either th sound, certain sounds such as the consonant blends like /st/or /ks/essentially only occur in Indo-European languages. Another example would be grammatical gender which only appears in the languages of Caucasian peoples. ...
"Months"? You are demented.So what? LOL. You probably don't even remember why you've been trying to hoist this strawman for months.
Or more likely because it doesn't fit your racialist agenda.Probably because its a relatively trivial thing compared with the depth and awesomeness of language, race and spirituality.
Hence my proposals for my nation.I honestly haven't read much Spengler. Be that as it may, 3rd world people iterate 3rd would countries due to the lack of integrated schema that support modern states. If you get enough 3rd Worlders in your country you will get of course a 3rd World country. ..
Don't tell me, you think the world is not getting hotter. Figures.Nice red herring with the climate change.
You losing your short-term memory?You can pivot all day long but the fact is: 3rd world people iterate 3rd would countries due to the lack of integrated schema that support modern states. If you get enough 3rd Worlders in your country you will get of course a 3rd World country. Psychologies are highly resistant to change, only great pain and great amounts of time can effect it. ...
You pretty much have in every post you've made.So what? Who ever in all these months of discussion said it was. ...
If the tin-hat fits.You're strawmanning.
What about the non-krauts?Closely related Germanic families of Indo-European peoples.
No, it's not. What is different is it doesn't seem to involve as much warfare as was suggested but ironically enough it does seem to be the threat you propose we should face of non-indigenous settling and taking over.No. That's the old and wrong view. ...
Welcome home party.Modern linguistics, archeology and genetics demonstrate that the people of England were already Germanic, so the Anglo-Saxon invasion was like a welcome home party, not a hostile invasion: ...
"Contrary to narratives suggesting large-scale displacement of the Britons by Anglo-Saxon invaders..."
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35344663
"The other myth I was taught at school, one which persists to this day, is that the English are almost all descended from 5th-century invaders, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, from the Danish peninsula, who wiped out the indigenous Celtic population of England. ... The tribes of England south of the Thames and along the south coast during Caesar’s time all had Belgic names or affiliations. Caesar tells us that these large intrusive settlements had replaced an earlier British population..."
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... t-its-dna/ ...
And let's not get distracted from the point which is that Iberia vomited out the Muslim invaders because they were foreign bodies, unlike pre-Roman Germanic peoples of England who integrated with the Anglo-Saxons who were of similar language, culture and spiritual tradition. Which is who Greeks, Irish and Germans could all integrate in the Americas: they are closely related peoples, where as, Africans and Turks are not integrating after generations. ...
You getting a twitch or something?You're simply wrong and lost in an ideological delusion.
Modern linguistics, archeology and genetics demonstrate that the people of England were already Germanic, so the Anglo-Saxon invasion was like a welcome home party, not a hostile invasion: ...
I thought you were a Yank?... "The other myth I was taught at school, ...
I didn't have to click on the link to know it was Gangs of NewYork, ...
So much for America and being American then. I definitely admit to being bigoted towards the Yank plastic paddies but 30 years of my life living with them funding terrorism against my nation will do that.... those of us who identify as European, and not British like you, don't have the same internecine prejudice against Irish and easily accept the Irish as our European brothers and sisters. Get over it you bigot. Happy St.Patrick's Day! ...
You've not been reading your own posts then.So what? For the literally one-hundredth time in this discussion: So what? What point do you believe you are making. It's never been insisted in months of discussion that race causes language. What do you believe your strawman is demonstrating or defending? Frankly I have no clue.
I really don't care what you buy as you are a deluded loon who only hears what they want as I've never said anything of the sort. What I have said is that the experience you describe that you apply to all black people is based upon black yanks and in my experience does not apply to all black people.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:... My main point is, I don't think blacks have the same level of cognitive capacity as whites do. You say that this trait is only with American blacks, and that all the blacks in the UK are part of some kind of utopia of geniuses, but I'm not really buying it.
Well, you are absolutely wrong, as usual.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:34 am
My main point is, I don't think blacks have the same level of cognitive capacity as whites do.
as usual, neither of you have the balls to step up to the plate and deliver any rhetoric, other than the re-tart-ed usual drivel of insults and pathetic online bullying.davidm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:51 amWell, you are absolutely wrong, as usual.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:34 am
My main point is, I don't think blacks have the same level of cognitive capacity as whites do.
My zod, this place is loathsome. A nice platform for the alt-right, neo-Nazis, Nazis, racists, misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, bigots of every stripe, and cretins like this thing to whom I am inexplicably replying. Looks like xman, who obviously is steeped in philosophy just from his first few posts, has already blown this tawdry popcorn stand. Good for him.
I'm still waiting for you to prove how blacks are cognitively equal to most whites.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:58 am See this bit numbnuts?
"What I have said is that the experience you describe that you apply to all black people is based upon black yanks and in my experience does not apply to all black people."
How can one prove this?GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:I'm still waiting for you to prove how blacks are cognitively equal to most whites. ...
What are you gibbering on about?Let's say that in the town you live in, the blacks are about as smart as the whites in that town. ...
There are pretty much no blacks in most towns.But compare that to other towns. ...
What's one of those?Are they as smart as the engineering towns?
No, our black people are in the main descendants of caribbean immigrants who came here in response to the call for workers in the 50's and 60's. It's only recently that, due to the EU, there has been an influx from French Africa and like all such moves the good and the bad come.And the other thing is this.
Your black immigrants are the blacks in Africa who desire the best education, obviously they are the smartest cream of the crop of Africa to begin with.
https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/blackiq.gifdavidm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:51 amWell, you are absolutely wrong, as usual.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:34 am My main point is, I don't think blacks have the same level of cognitive capacity as whites do.
One of the articles does say that Celts are a bit of an invention. And, also, as you must have read, in deed I quoted the sections for you, that the Anglo-Saxons did not displace Celtic peoples who ran for the hills, as you had written, but rather the pre-Roman English were Germanic peoples who had some time earlier migrated over from what is today Belgium. The point being, which you presumably agree with, is the pre-Roman Germanic English integrated with the Anglo-Saxons because they were all of very similar race, language, culture and spiritual tradition: which is also why the Irish and Greeks and Germans and so on easily assimilated in America -- and is why the Arabs and the Iberians never integrated, and why today the Blacks and Muslims and Turks will never in a thousand years integrate into any White European societies. You agree with this.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:36 pmRead your own links and you will see that all it says is that the Celts were not a unified genetic group and whilst there was a Germanic influx at the same time this is not the 'already Germanic' that you wish.Seleucus wrote:"The other myth I was taught at school, one which persists to this day, is that the English are almost all descended from 5th-century invaders, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, from the Danish peninsula, who wiped out the indigenous Celtic population of England. ... The tribes of England south of the Thames and along the south coast during Caesar’s time all had Belgic names or affiliations. Caesar tells us that these large intrusive settlements had replaced an earlier British population..."
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... t-its-dna/ ...
Go ahead and use the quote function: search.php?author_id=14903&sr=postsYou've not been reading your own posts then.So what? For the literally one-hundredth time in this discussion: So what? What point do you believe you are making. It's never been insisted in months of discussion that race causes language. What do you believe your strawman is demonstrating or defending? Frankly I have no clue.