Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:31 pm
seeds wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:32 am
It would more or less reduce it to some kind of Buddhist-like "noble path" to follow if one wants to avoid the pitfalls of life on earth.
Now, on the other hand, if the endeavor is conducted in the spirit of attempting to extract the best features of all of the world's spiritual traditions in order to formulate a new and sensible code of conduct for all of humankind in general,...
...then that would make more sense, for nobody's belief system would be excluded from the project.
And that is something that AJ's narrow focus on just "Christian Civilization" ("Christian Nationalism") fails to consider.
Exclusion, selection, valuation, placing one thing either above or below another; decisiveness, discernment, and the power that results from choices made — these are the real things that made •civilization• (I mean that in the sense of spiritual superstructure).
Are you talking about the
"civilization" that - due to its cultural and religious divisiveness - is crumbling right before our very eyes?
Are you talking about the
"civilization" that, again, due to its cultural divisiveness, stands on the brink of self-annihilation via nuclear Armageddon?
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:31 pm
If this is so, and I think it is, it is through that decisiveness that •we• (i.e. not you of course!) will move forward.
Move forward into what?
Describe for us what it is you think •we• (not me, of course) will move forward into.
What will it look like? And upon whose authority and "decisiveness" (judgment) will the philosophical context of this future utopia be based?
Judging from your attitude,...
(and especially judging from the fact that I can still plainly see that giant red T watermark on the pages beneath your text)
...I cannot help but think that your idea of
"moving forward" might eventually involve one of these...
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:31 pm
Your path results in castration on all levels.
What's my
"path"?
Please describe for me what you think my
"path" is?
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:31 pm
As a method, as a strategy, it turns each tradition to New Age mush. It removes from each what lends each its distinctive power.
Hmmm...it would seem that my "method" involves...
Alexis Jacobi wrote:"...Exclusion, selection, valuation, placing one thing either above or below another; decisiveness, discernment,..."
...which, in turn, has allowed me to determine that "each tradition" appears to be steeped in mythology, and thus woefully lacking in logic, and could (and should) be replaced with a greater (hopefully, more unifying) vision of reality.
Shame on me for employing the very tools that you, yourself, feel are necessary for building a stable civilization.
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:31 pm
Your psychedelic vision, which has resulted in a diagramatization of a perceptual stance and picture, is quasi-universalist or neo-universalist, it seems. But in my view it really guts the essence of whatever religious tradition it would touch, and certainly that of Christianity...
Oh dear, now you are making me feel embarrassed and ashamed.
...
universalist
noun
1. a person who believes that all humankind will eventually be saved.
2. a person advocating loyalty to and concern for others without regard to national or other allegiances.
...I mean, how dare I be
"...a person who believes that all humankind will eventually be saved..."
How dare I be
"...a person advocating loyalty to and concern for others without regard to national or other allegiances..."
Lock me in a pillory and have the good Christian Nationalists pelt me with scorn and rotten tomatoes.
Furthermore, and contrary to your misunderstanding of what I am doing,...
....I would go so far as to suggest that my "...perceptual stance and picture..." actually confirms the veracity of one of the absolute
core elements of Christianity. And that core element is in reference to our literal
"offspring-to-parent" relationship with the Creator of this universe.
Nevertheless, now that you've shown me the error of my quasi-ness/neo-ness ways, I must humbly thank you for re-directing me onto a path that is not of your own making but is loosely constructed from the ideas you have gleaned from others from your extensive reading.
So then, now that you've got me interested in the idea about some kind of future and perfected form of
Christian Nationalism, will membership come with cool looking uniforms with symbolic patches?
Perhaps the uniforms could incorporate the use of long red ties.
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