Re: WHY DO YOU THINK WE ARE HERE? WHY DO WE EXIST?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:18 am
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You might want to unpack that question.
I mean a non consciousness state because minds cannot survive deathDontaskme wrote:Do you mean a non consciousness state as opposed to what is known as a conscious state ?surreptitious57 wrote:
I think that once irreversible death occurs all that follows is an eternal state of non consciousness
A non consciousness that is free from all suffering and therefore should not in any way be feared
What if the non conscious state that is death is actually the same state as knowing one is alive ?
What if the sense of being alive is not actually real and that being alive is just the same as being dead ?
What in your opinion makes a human being KNOW to make a claim such as I am alive ...
and yet I wasnt alive before my birth and I will not be alive after my death ? What is making that claim ?
What if you dont mind me asking ... can say and know that knowledge of itself and is that knowledge real actual fact or fiction ?
I tend to think the non-consciousness state is a constant eternal state that exists only NOW and is applicable to both the birth and death concept...and that non-consciousness eternal constant state then apparently becomes conscious of itself when it appears as birth aka the appearance of a ''mind''.. as opposed to the state of 'no-mind' aka death...basically, both concepts have to be present in the same moment else neither the concept of death or birth would be known to the mind. The mind must be present at all times, and that death is just the mind being in abeyance, not aware of anything yet..but has the potential to be aware of somehting... and so because the mind is capable of being aware of somethings means that it must exist in both states, in both death and birth...because it is only the mind that is aware of itself in birth...and can only know that concept in relation to the mind being in abeyance aka he non-consciousness state...here...there is nothing else aware of itself except the mind.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:35 am
I mean non consciousness state because minds cannot survive death
The difference is in the knowing aspect...when dead there is no knowing, when alive there is knowing...but this knowing is born of the not-knowing...and so the not-knowing when it is born then becomes the known to the not-knowing...as in the not-knowing known and that is why the mystics call reality a dreamscape reality..a conscious fictional overlay upon a blank screen of non-consciousness becoming conscious.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:35 amThere are fundamentally significant differences between being alive and being dead which makes them not remotely the same
And this self awareness of the mind if you examine it closely is a fictional overlay...in reality no fictional thing is aware...awareness is a blank slate, it is neither dead nor alive..concepts such as birth and death are just fictional conceptual appearances source unknown appearing upon the blank screen of awareness.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:35 amThe mind becomes self aware between conception and birth and stays self aware before death as it cannot function outside of these states
I dont know if this is true or not because I only have experience of my own existenceDontaskme wrote:
I just cant seem to move away from the sense that no thing has ever been born or can die neither has any thing ever been seen
For all things are just imagined fictional characters that do not exist in the way thought thinks they do