What's the Difference if any between Man and Woman?

[Harbal]

I didn't realise he was allowed out!

Well I can see why you would assume that he wasn't.

I think he may have been assuming that everyone here would support what I believe is called gender ideology, simply because they oppose his views on most other matters.

Yes, he seems to specialise in false assumptions.

[Maia]

Well I can see why you would assume that he wasn't.

I think he may have been assuming that everyone here would support what I believe is called gender ideology, simply because they oppose his views on most other matters.

Yes, he seems to specialise in false assumptions.

People can't so easily be pigeonholed.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Let's see if we can work out what's going on with this dim wit, Wizard.

It seems to me that he wants to have a rant about biological males participating in women's sport. He obviously thinks it's wrong, but he also wants to think that a certain group of people here, who he has arbitrarily labelled as "woke" support the principle, so that he can shout "WOKIE" at them. He hasn't bothered to find out what anybody actually does think, because it might turn out that they don't support the idea of men participating in women's sport, which would leave him with no one to shout "WOKIE" at.

This is literally projection, because, I asked and both of you balked.

This is called intellectual dishonesty. Something Hairball's never concerned himself with in his entire life, apparently.

You asked about the difference between men and women. Well there are lots of differences between them, so unless you narrow it down, I have no idea what you expect me to say. You didn't ask me my opinion of men participating in women's sport. If you had asked, I would have told you that I don't think it should be allowed.

Since there is now no such entity as 'women' because apparently it's just something that penis-owners can call themselves whenever it's convenient to (like when they want to have a wank in women's toilets and changing rooms), then there can be no 'encroaching' on 'women's' sports and spaces because there is no such thing as women (unless you are a man (who is also a woman) ). Glad that's sorted...

[Wizard22]

I didn't realise he was allowed out!

Somebody left the door open again.

[Wizard22]

Since there is now no such entity as 'women' because apparently it's just something that penis-owners can call themselves whenever it's convenient to (like when they want to have a wank in women's toilets and changing rooms), then there can be no 'encroaching' on 'women's' sports and spaces because there is no such thing as women (unless you are a man (who is also a woman) ). Glad that's sorted...

Perhaps the most consistent lesson learned over a decade or two of philosophy... is how far people will go, to undermine their own professed 'moral beliefs' and convictions, simply to spite one-another. There seems to be no depth to hypocrisy and pettiness. So when it comes to real virtue and vice, perverts and pedophiles waving their genitals in front of children in public, even that is not enough to put aside neighborhood feuds and personal grudges, in order to 'better' society.

Apathy is the sign of a dying civilization.

[Harbal]

perverts and pedophiles waving their genitals

You think about this a lot, don't you?

[Dontaskme]

What would you say is the largest, most important difference?

What if the difference was just an ''apparent arising'' of there being here a ''separate sense of self'' ?
A self that willingly chooses to stick all kinds of conceptual labels to itself?

A 'sense of self' is an apparent self-conscious entity, some energetic phenomena that is capable of being conscious of itself as being different, in the sense it has become aware as and through it's own awareness of itself, that there are ''other'' self-conscious individuals existing as well, ones that do not resemble in any way shape or form it's own self... and that these other selves come with their own different labels they have chosen to attach to themselves as well?


What if, this self-conscious entity, realises to it's horror, that it no longer has any privacy, now being aware that others exist as well, so it lives the rest of it's life in shame, in fear of being blamed and shamed for being different, when all this sense of self really wants to be, is it's pure natural self, like every other sentient animal on the planet.

''Privacy'' seems to be the most important issue to the ''sense of self'' ...if one's privacy is violated by another, then that sense of self may experience, what's called a shame of maybe being different ? But who can it blame, but the other?

That to me, seems to be what's going on with humanity, they are endowed with the sense of individuality, which tends to want privacy.
It's something nature has programmed humans to do, to be different, and then be shamed and blamed for it. It's a big mess, and to be honest, nature is very good at making a huge mess of life, it's what it does quite naturally.

[Sculptor]

The question is a distraction. It's just another way to keep the people divided, whilst the 1% rob you of your labour.
They used to ask the same about Gays, Jews, gentiles, blacks, whites, immigrants, bornies.

Ask yourself this. Why are you so obsessed with the question?

[Dontaskme]

So when it comes to real virtue and vice, perverts and pedophiles waving their genitals in front of children in public, even that is not enough to put aside neighborhood feuds and personal grudges, in order to 'better' society.

Apathy is the sign of a dying civilization.

Gorillas having oral sex in full view of other chimps.


Nature is not self-conscious, nature just does what it does. Where there is a sense of self, there is difference. Unfortunately this difference is illusory, it's an illusion taking offense.

[Wizard22]

You think about this a lot, don't you?

Not nearly as much as you think about nothing at all.

[Age]

The difference between 'man' and 'woman' are the sexual reproductive organs on the human body.

If you could find agreement on absolutely ANY 'thing' ELSE, then we will just have to WAIT, to SEE.

[Wizard22]

What if the difference was just an ''apparent arising'' of there being here a ''separate sense of self'' ?
A self that willingly chooses to stick all kinds of conceptual labels to itself?

A 'sense of self' is an apparent self-conscious entity, some energetic phenomena that is capable of being conscious of itself as being different, in the sense it has become aware as and through it's own awareness of itself, that there are ''other'' self-conscious individuals existing as well, ones that do not resemble in any way shape or form it's own self... and that these other selves come with their own different labels they have chosen to attach to themselves as well?

Just because a person would like to be identified as something, does not make it so. You can want to be smart, and beautiful, and tall, and rich. But the wanting doesn't make it so, at least immediately. You have to 'Be' the thing. You have to 'Be' smart, and beautiful, and tall, and rich, first...in order to identify as such. Then there are the people who lie. They are not the thing, but claim to 'Be' it. So there are at least a few different factors between the 'Being' and the 'Thing'.

What if, this self-conscious entity, realises to it's horror, that it no longer has any privacy, now being aware that others exist as well, so it lives the rest of it's life in shame, in fear of being blamed and shamed for being different, when all this sense of self really wants to be, is it's pure natural self, like every other sentient animal on the planet.

''Privacy'' seems to be the most important issue to the ''sense of self'' ...if one's privacy is violated by another, then that sense of self may experience, what's called a shame of maybe being different ? But who can it blame, but the other?

That to me, seems to be what's going on with humanity, they are endowed with the sense of individuality, which tends to want privacy.
It's something nature has programmed humans to do, to be different, and then be shamed and blamed for it. It's a big mess, and to be honest, nature is very good at making a huge mess of life, it's what it does quite naturally.

Why is privacy necessary, except to hide away what is 'Negative' and/or harmful to others?

It doesn't even need to be malicious. It can also be mundane. For example, if some stranger approaches you on the street, and starts talking loudly at you about something you're not interested in...then this is a violation of your privacy, perception, and experience. You must 'wall' yourself apart from such a person. You must separate. You must blockade. You must ignore. If you cannot, then you have no privacy. So privacy is a defense-mechanism.

[Wizard22]

The difference between 'man' and 'woman' are the sexual reproductive organs on the human body.

If you could find agreement on absolutely ANY 'thing' ELSE, then we will just have to WAIT, to SEE.

The problem is, wokies are promoting sex-hormone treatments, and genital mutilation now. A transexual male, with fake tits, and castrated stump, now claims to be a woman...

While morons like Hairball and Sculptor condone and promote him/her/it.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

The difference between 'man' and 'woman' are the sexual reproductive organs on the human body.

If you could find agreement on absolutely ANY 'thing' ELSE, then we will just have to WAIT, to SEE.

The problem is, wokies are promoting sex-hormone treatments, and genital mutilation now. A transexual male, with fake tits, and castrated stump, now claims to be a woman...

While morons like Hairball and Sculptor condone and promote him/her/it.

Not sure why you keep accusing Harbal of this. As far as I'm aware Sculptor and Peter Krpototpk are the only two full-blown wokies on this site and they both hate women.
You don't have to have fake tits or be castrated. You just have to call yourself a woman. Easy peasy. You don't even have to wear a dress. You could be a woman too, any time you want.

[Age]

The difference between 'man' and 'woman' are the sexual reproductive organs on the human body.

If you could find agreement on absolutely ANY 'thing' ELSE, then we will just have to WAIT, to SEE.

The problem is, wokies are promoting sex-hormone treatments, and genital mutilation now. A transexual male, with fake tits, and castrated stump, now claims to be a woman...

AND, what IS the, ACTUAL, 'problem' here?

To me, the word 'problem' has a VERY SPECIFIC MEANING. What does the word 'problem' even MEAN, to you?

While morons like Hairball and Sculptor condone and promote him/her/it.

Is EVERY one who 'condones', or who MIGHT 'condone', some 'thing', which you do NOT, a 'moron', or just SOME of 'them'?