First of all, little V (and for the umpteenth x umpteenth time), the premise you attempted to establish in that thread was debunked and laid to rest here: viewtopic.php?p=368433#p368433Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:10 am I have justified;
God is an Impossibility [to be Real]
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...and here:
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...and here:
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Indeed, how many times can you exhume and then beat a poor dead horse before it turns into a cloud of dried-up tissue fragments and pulverized bones?
There is no "cognitive dissonance arising from an existential crisis."Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:10 am Since theism is driven by inherent cognitive dissonance arising from an existential crisis, where the latter cannot be got rid of, the viable solution is to wean off theism with alternative FOOLPROOF solutions to replace theism.
No, little V, there is simply the inherent common-sense conclusion that the unfathomable order of the universe could not possibly have been a product of the blind and mindless processes of chance.
And that (for the most part) is what drives the perpetuation of theism, for it leads to the logical assumption that something vastly intelligent must be behind it all.
Furthermore, because the gift of life is such an amazing and mysterious phenomenon that holds the potential for unimaginable beauty and infinite possibilities in some higher context of reality,...
...then, sure, almost everyone hopes that life will continue on in that higher context.
However, for you to translate that "hope" as being some sort of "existential crisis" that prevents humans from accepting (as you have done) the ridiculous chance hypothesis,...
...is simply a demonstration of the fact that just as a fly or a mouse do not possess the mental wherewithal to understand that they function on an ascending ladder of consciousness that consists of rungs that extend higher than their own rungs (such as the dog's rung, for example, or the even higher human rung),...
...likewise, many humans (such as yourself), because of their position on the ladder, simply do not possess the mental wherewithal to fathom the existence of a rung above their own rung.
In other words, and this will no doubt come as a shock to your enormous ego, but humans do not occupy the top rung of the ascending ladder of consciousness.
Yeah, yeah, I know, you are going to insist that everything I suggested above was driven by a "...cognitive dissonance arising from an existential crisis..."
To which I, in our perennial war of opposing views, will insist that you simply aren't awake enough (not high enough on the ladder) to comprehend where I am coming from.
Anyway, regardless of which of us (or neither of us) is on the right track, I wonder which one of our particular outlooks on reality would be the most appealing to most humans?
Would it be my suggestion that, no matter what any of us have done or believed while on earth, life holds a huge surprise for each of us that is so amazing and so wonderful that it must be kept hidden from us until death so that we are not tempted to seek it out prematurely?
...Or...
Would it be your suggestion that life holds no ultimate purpose for us as individuals, and is therefore meaningless in that the only thing we have to look forward to is eternal oblivion?
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