Dontaskme wrote:There is no knowledge of what death is, …
The general understanding is its when a body ceases to function but obviously there is no knowing by a dead body as it is dead.
nor of what life is... …
The general understanding is it's the having of a body that is functioning in an external world.
except what the mind makes up....all that can be known is there appears to be a continuous stream of what looks like an unbroken chain of life living itself endlessly recycling from latent to kinetic to latent to kinetic on a constantly sustaining feedback loop... as two sides of the same coin, neither dead nor alive,... …
Something can't be neither dead nor alive. Where is this 'continuous stream of life', can you give an example? By-the-by you are once again reifying 'life'.
but rather having the effect we see in everyday mechanics like a computer that is either offline or online depending on whether the machine is plugged into it's animating source. And notice that while the machine can be either off or online, the source aka electricity the animating spirit of all machines can never be negated. …
Of course it can, you turn off the generator. It's amazing how often this analogy is rehashed, once it was spirits, then fluids, then it was radio signals, now it's computers.
Source is a formidable force that cannot be known, for it is the only knowing there is. …
And you know this how?
Ask yourself what is it that is alive here... …
The body.
and why if it's alive would that aliveness die?... …
The body ceases to functions.
how can life die, and how can that which is dead be alive.It does not make sense. …
Exactly and the problem lies with thinking 'life' is a thing other than being a living thing.
Neither does this belief make sense>>
If you didn't exist before you was born, and you won't exist after you die, WHO is it now that is supposed to be alive and will one day die? …
the body that was born and that will one day die.
please explain who that is..that has suddenly popped into existence between two non-existences? …
There are no 'non-existences' in any sense other than just not being in existence.
..see how that belief does not make sense?
Well that one certainly doesn't but the one that claims we are born, live and die certainly does.
Your philosophy has to explain that..who that is?
A body.
Logic will show you that there is no break in the cycle of reality that can only ever be wholeness in every moment, and so there is no room for separate entities to exist. Who would that separate entity be? ..but a thought!
The problem with Logic is doesn't discover any truth about the empirical world other than what is necessary or impossible.
The electrical impulses are no longer responding to stimuli not because the body is dead, we cannot know what death is, but a cycle of regeneration process is what's probably and more logically taking place, the body has stopped responding to life on a human level, but on a deeper level there are changes taking place that the mind is unaware of and has no direct experience of....the bodies mechanism to process sensory data has temporally gone off line to the mind on a human level, just like it does in deep dreamless sleep, or during anesthesia. …
How come dead bodies never come back online then?
But nothing is dead, because nothing is alive, these are just ideas, thoughts... …
In what?
Notice that a computer will suddenly stop responding, it will crash or freeze, but that does not mean the end, all that's required is a rebooting and all is up and running again. We can compare that to how reality of bodies and form are operating. …
Show me a dead body that has come back to life?
So as usual, you are talking typically from a programmed conditioned mentality about what you think you know about the world, and then state it is not important to ask the question who is the questioneer in search of wisdom and who is it that has called itself a philospher ..who is this I AM that wants to KNOW...philosophy just ignores that bit, it's so darn sure of itself, it never needs to question it...but this is a programme that the mind has conjured up about itself, transferred from one generation to the next, on and on and on and no body ever stops to question the sense of who AM I..who is the questioneer? ..it's okay we don't know that part so we'll just ignore it. …
Have you read any of Western Philosophy? What you talk about in all your posts is known as monist idealism and it's been around since the C18th, although I'm not sure what kind of monist you are as there are a few different types.
Best not ask questions about things we know nothing about... ...
I'd be flabbergasted if you could ask a question about something we know nothing about?
we'll just live with what we believe in, with what we believe are our beliefs, even though we don't know what they are either..but lets cling to belief because without the beliefs we have absolutely no idea who we are, or what we are, or what we are looking at, or why we want to know what we want to know. We'll just keep pretending and making it all up.
We know who we are, we're thinking things, we know what we are, we're primates, we know that we are looking at an external world, why we want to know things is because we are rational thinking things and what we want to know depends upon circumstances.