Islamic expansionism does not work the way you probably thinks it works

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Re: Islamic expansionism does not work the way you probably thinks it works

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godelian wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:08 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 6:00 am My general moral position is, there should be ZERO wars.
But due to the current psychological and evolutionary state of the majority of humans, wars will unavoidably happened.
It is not possible to run a state based on unrealistic idealism. Say that there will be wars. Therefore, you need an army. Now you have the problem that nobody wants to join that army. So, what do you do?
As I had stated,
But due to the current psychological and evolutionary state of the majority of humans, wars will unavoidably happened.
So we have to bear with wars at present and the near future.. it cannot be avoided in our present psychological and state of moral competence.

The moral standard is, there must be an unrealistic target of ZERO wars.
I have raised > 300 threads [not posts] in the Ethical Theory Section to support the striving to this "unrealistic ideal".
This striving [impulse] for the unrealistic ideal is hardcoded and embedded in the DNA of all humans, albeit dormant, inactive or has some degrees of activeness with a trend of slow unfoldment and progress.

It works like this, for example at present we have 500 wars around the world per year.
When we set an unrealistic target of ZERO wars now, we will not achieve the ideal target, but it will drive, motivate and facilitate continuous gradual improvements with a reduction from 500 wars onward.
In this case, we will strive to analyze all the contributing variables and reduce and make attempts to reduce the number of wars.

Actually this inherent innate drive towards less wars was already active within humanity albeit low trend of reduction.
Here is one source of evidence:

The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined is a 2011 book by Steven Pinker, in which the author argues that violence in the world has declined both in the long run and in the short run and suggests explanations as to why this has occurred.[1] The book uses data simply documenting declining violence across time and geography. This paints a picture of massive declines in the violence of all forms, from war, to improved treatment of children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bette ... Our_Nature
Note also the reduction and that Chattel Slavery is not illegal in all countries.

Whilst there is a reduction in wars since say 1000 years to the present, despite the reduction in war, there is a very critical danger because of WMDs where even one such war could exterminate the human species.

This is where why the Islamic doctrine is very dangerous.
The Quran promote the condemnation of life on Earth and that life in paradise is 1000x better.
This is why many Muslims kept shouting, they love death more that the infidels love life.
On this basis, Muslims are not deterred by M.A.D [mutual assured destruction] and will not hesitate to use WMDs since regardless they will go to paradise which is 1000x better than life on Earth.
You & the majority may not agree with the above? but if only 10% are willing to press the red button, that is a pool of 150 millions :shock: of them who are will to do so.

The problem is the above doctrine that promote an indifference to M.A.D is because the words of God in the holy book are immutable. As such the potential that the human species could be exterminated by extremists is very possible.

How can we resolve this "immutable" problem to avoid the possible extermination of the human species? You can think about it rationally.

In the meantime, it is critical that humanity identify the inherent moral potential and expedite its progress exponentially so to increase the average moral quotient of humanity; this will facilitate a reduction in wars and all sort of evil towards nearer to ZERO, albeit not achieving the impossible ideal.

Christianity and other pacifists religions and organization can set ZERO wars target.

But, because the Islamic doctrine sanction wars based on immutable doctrines there is no way nor possibility to reduce the possibility of wars via the religion. Islam is the only ideology that is stuck with this inflexibility to wars and violence till eternity unless God can appear to change his existing doctrine [which is an impossibility].
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