Atla wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:05 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:57 am
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:49 am
And now you are claiming that an infinite universe can expand, get bigger.
LOL WHERE did I EVER claim that?
Or, is this just an ATTEMPT to deflect away from what I ACTUALLY DID SAY?
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:49 amIf you have no idea what you're talking about then don't comment.
Great advice.
But let us SEE what actually happened here.
Are you responding to my clarifying questions, or NOT answering my clarifying questions?
Did I actually claim that an infinite Universe can expand, get bigger, or did you just say that to TRY TO deflect away from the actual issues that I have been CLEARLY pointing out and showing?
Are you saying things in response to what I am pointing out, or are you saying things like; "If you have no idea about what you're talking about then don't comment", in order to take away from what I have just highlight is the WRONGNESS of what you have written and so far you WILL NOT respond to?
YOU wrote that to you, it says that light is dimmed because the universe is expanding. Amnesiac much?
You could NOT have misconstrued this, taken it out of context nor got what I said any more WRONG even if you tried. I said:
The "olbers-paradox" from the explanation I just read, to me, says that the light from the more distant stars is dimmed because they are receding from the observer as the universe expands.
YES I wrote: That to me, 'it' says: ('it' being the so called "olbers-paradox") SAYS that the light from the more distant stars is dimmed because the stars are receding away from the observer as the universe expands.
I did NOT say, and repeat, I DID NOT SAY, that light IS dimmed because the universe is expanding.
If you STILL have NOT seen the difference. I said: the "olbers-paradox" SAYS that the universe is expanding. I did NOT say that the universe is expanding. That is WHAT the "olbers-paradox" SAYS. There is a HUGE difference here, which obviously you did NOT notice, recognize, nor SEE.
In case you are STILL unaware I say: From what I have seen I have NOT observed any expansion of the Universe, Itself, as such my VIEW is the Universe is infinite and eternal. Just so it is CLEAR I say: the Universe is NOT expanding nor getting bigger.
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:05 pmBut the Olbers paradox was invented long before they realized that the universe was expanding. And the Olbers paradox talks about an infinite universe so even according to you it can't expand.
This is what I read regarding the "olbers-paradox". SEE if this AGREES with what you are saying here. IF it does NOT, then tell us what is WRONG with this explanation of the "olbers-paradox", and then tell us what it is MEANT TO BE.
The apparent paradox that if stars are distributed evenly throughout an infinite universe, the sky should be as bright by night as by day, since more distant stars would be fainter but more numerous. This is not the case because the universe is of finite age, and the light from the more distant stars is dimmed because they are receding from the observer as the universe expands.
To me this explanation clearly does NOT say what you are suggesting. To make it CLEAR, for you, you stated:
Overall light doesn't diminish, it just spreads out, Whereas, the "olbers-paradox" states:
The light from the more distant stars is dimmed because they are receding from the observer as the universe expands.
To make it even SIMPLER for you to CLEAR up for us.
You say: Light does NOT diminish.
Olbers-paradox says: Light IS dimmed.
So, IF light dims but does NOT diminish, then would a 9volt torch shined in your direction been seen by you NO matter what distance it is away from you as it recedes away from you?
If yes, then great.
If no, then even better.
Which one is it?
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:05 pmAs usual you haven't demonstrated anything to anyone other than your own idiocy. Who the fuck do you think you are to have pointed out the wrongness in what I write?
Who I think the 'you' is is the person within this body. This person is made up of different thoughts than the 'you' in that body. The thoughts within this body are NOT necessarily right, but just a view obtained from what the body has experienced. These views are expressed in written words in this forum of which the views that are WRONG are hopefully sorted out and brought to the attention of the readers here.
Who do you think 'you' are?
By the way you NEVER clarified the questions I asked you regarding whether light diminishes with supposedly receding stars, as proposed by the "olbers-paradox", which you referred me to, to comprehend, OR, is it a FACT that light does NOT diminish but only spreads out, as you STATED IS THE CASE, as well as me being an idiot for NOT knowing that it is a FACT?
I have asked you which version is True, your version or the "olbers-paradox" version, which you wanted me to comprehend? If you still have NOT yet noticed YOUR VERSION clearly is in contradiction of the OTHER "olber-paradox" VERSION.
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:05 pmYou are a worthless, delusional piece of shit completely full of yourself.
If you say so, then that is WHAT 'i' AM.
Either way this still does NOT clear up what I have highlighted in regards to your BELIEF that the universe is expanding. Or, is the universe expanding an actual FACT also?