gaffo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:52 amUS never signed up to the ICC - so your PM demand for Bush to sit in front of ICC judges would be an illegal order/act.-1- wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:06 pmI condemn the Invasion of Iraq, and the constant shit the Western Powers have been piling on the Arab world. Just as much as you do.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:54 pm What does 'terror-friendly' even mean? Do you realise the amount of terror the US and UK have unleashed upon millions of innocent people in the past few deacades?
You should elect a Prime Minister who promises in his campaign that he or she will prosecute all war criminals in front of an international panel of judges, including George W. Bush (that's the younger one, right?) and some other dudies. Bush being one of the accused, not one of the judges.
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Let me get this straight...you're a Jew, right ? But you're a Jew who has a robust political sympathy for the Arab world, for Muslim- majority countries like Iran, and Syria and thus you CONDEMN the invasion of a rogue state like Iraq by the US and its coalition allies. Do you realise that during the "Gulf War" against Iraq, Iraq launched SCUD missiles at targets in Israel, despite the fact Israel was not a part of the coalition that invaded Iraq? Israel deliberately stayed out of the war, despite these SCUD missile attacks because of fears that the Coalition's Arab nations would not fight alongside Israel. 74 Israel civilians died in these attacked and 230 others were injured. But I guess that didn't bother you, because you're a Jew who thinks Arabs (like those in HAMAS and HEZBOLLAH, for example) are "freedom fighters" and that if they and other Arabs like them should ever succeed in destroying Israel that would be a good thing. As for me, I support Israel 1000%, and I'm not a Jew.Why. Well, one very basics reason is that the citizens of the state of Israel are, by and large intelligent, civilsed human beings, whereas the shit-holes like Iran, Iraq, Syria, Palestine are populated with ANIMALS, and nasty animals at that. You should be ashamed of yourself, there is nothing worse, in my book, that a person who shows no respect, who has no sense of loyalty ,no reverence or love for her own blood.
You condemn the US invasion of Iraq. Why's that ? I can see a hundred good reason why the US and it coalition allies were justified in taking military action against Iraq following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. Let me give you a couple just to start with...
Since you are very likely one of those leftist, Western sheep who bleated "No Blood for Oil" in 1990/1 during the "Gulf War" (i.e; "Operation Desert Shield"), let's talk about the issue oil, shall we?
(1) The Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait in 1990 was totally unjustified.
Saddam Hussein , as I will explain in more detail below, invaded Kuwait purely to get his hands on Kuwait's oil. Iraq used exaggerated accusations of so-called "Slant drilling" and oil overproduction to justify its invasion of Kuwait. This invasion, however, did not meet the criteria for a "JUST WAR", as it was not waged by a legitimate authority, and there was no "just cause" or "right intentions". Traditionally, there are three just causes for going to war:
(1) to protect people from unjust attack.
(2) to restore rights that have been wrongfully taken away.
(3) to defend or re-establish a just political order.
The unjust Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the fact that the invasion was CONDEMNED by the UN, was H.George Bush's main reason for the US involvement. In addition after Iraq invaded Kuwait (2-4 August, 1990), the US was one of a coalition of 34 nations (primarily UN nations) that drove Iraq out of Kuwait and military action by the US was properly authorised by UNSC resolution 678.
(2) OIL
Following the Iran - Iraq war, which lasted nearly 8 years, Iraq was deeply in debt to a number of different countries. Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, were the two countries owed the most money, and Iraq refused to pay back the debt. Kuwait began exceeding OPEC oil production quotas, in part to earn back some of the money it was owed by Iraq, which contribute to low oil prices in the 1980's. There were other factors that caused the low prices, including lower demand from the US and Europe as a result of the 1970's oil crises, and the rise of alternative forms of fuels like Nuclear and Natural Gas. The low oil prices were great for the West (e.g. US and UK), but harmed producers like Iraq. Kuwait, according to Iraqi accusations, was also slant-drilling across its border into Iraq - controlled parts of the Rumaila oil fields.During the failed negotiations leading up to the war, Iraq demanded full access to all of the Rumaila oil fields, even the parts located in Kuwait. Adding Kuwait's oil fields to its own would have given Iraq a huge chunk of the world's oil reserves. Iraq's conquest of Kuwait also put it in a position to possibly invade Saudi Arabia, and if they were successful in taking over Saudi Arabs, and their oil fields, Iraq would hold the majority of the world's oil reserves. This would have given Iraq tremendous influence over the global economy, given the world-wide dependence on oil.
Given Iraq's volatile history, this could harm not only the US and other Western powers, but also other oil-producing countries neighbouring Iraq. Iraq could have dramatically reduced its oil exports, while building massive reserves, which would have driven oil prices up, harming consuming nations. Or, it could have increased exports keeping prices low and harming other oil producers, especially it fellow OPEC members.
Would you like some more reasons that justified the "Gulf War ? I've got plenty.
Or would you like to discuss the 2003 Iraq War and the role of the US and Britain in toppling Saddam Hussein. That was a fully justified war as well.
Finally, if you don't like America and the UK and their Western allies, if your attitude is that you agree they (esp the US and UK) should be condemned "for the amount of terror they have unleashed upon millions of innocent people over the past few decades", well let me remind you that you're always free to FUCK OFF out of the West. But you're not likely to do that are you Dear, because in the West you're safe and very well protected, also you have lots of luvverly consumer goods ( which are the most important things in most women's lives) to keep you happy. So instead of insulting the West, why not trying showing some respect and gratitude instead. (Women BTW are treated well (too well, IMO) in the modern West, so if you want to find out what you're missing out on,go emigrate to South Africa, The Congo Nigeria, Afghanistan, Iran, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Russia, and see what the locals think of women in these places.)
Regards
Dachshund