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Re: Can God love?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:57 pm
by VVilliam
VVilliam wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:44 am
Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?
Yes. All actions could be said to need something in order to identify them by - to help us understand that which motivates said actions. Love would be no different.
Have you seen God express his love for us lately?
IF "God" is defined as "love which is expressed through human beings" THEN yes.
If god is love, just an emotion, why call it god?
Is love to be defined as 'just an emotion"?
Do you give god all the credit for the love you give and get to god or to the individual?
If I defined 'god' as 'love', then yes.
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:15 pm
by Sculptor
Can unicorns sing La Marseillaise?
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:25 pm
by VVilliam
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:15 pm
Can unicorns sing La Marseillaise?
Yes - [and perhaps not even just the pink ones] but only on a planet which humans have yet to actually discover...unless of course we are actually completely the only sentient species which exists in the whole darn universe...
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:33 pm
by Greatest I am
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:57 pm
VVilliam wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:44 am
Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?
Yes. All actions could be said to need something in order to identify them by - to help us understand that which motivates said actions. Love would be no different.
Have you seen God express his love for us lately?
IF "God" is defined as "love which is expressed through human beings" THEN yes.
If god is love, just an emotion, why call it god?
Is love to be defined as 'just an emotion"?
Do you give god all the credit for the love you give and get to god or to the individual?
If I defined 'god' as 'love', then yes.
You do not seem that simple.
Show the definition of love that you are using that says a genocidal mass murderer knows how to love.
Do you see a lot of love in Stalin and Hitler as well?
Regards
DL
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:33 pm
by Greatest I am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:15 pm
Can unicorns sing La Marseillaise?
If god can love, sure.
Regards
DL
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:50 pm
by VVilliam
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:33 pm
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:57 pm
VVilliam wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:44 am
Yes. All actions could be said to need something in order to identify them by - to help us understand that which motivates said actions. Love would be no different.
IF "God" is defined as "love which is expressed through human beings" THEN yes.
If god is love, just an emotion, why call it god?
Is love to be defined as 'just an emotion"?
Do you give god all the credit for the love you give and get to god or to the individual?
If I defined 'god' as 'love', then yes.
You do not seem that simple.
Well I did say "IF"
Show the definition of love that you are using that says a genocidal mass murderer knows how to love.
Do you see a lot of love in Stalin and Hitler as well?
IF I define such actions as actions of 'love', then I probably would do, yes.
But do I actually?
I assume this is coming from the argument that the old testament idea of god is often reported doing the deplorable?
My own focus is on the idea the we all exist in some kind of holographic simulated reality experience so that naturally implies at least one creator [probably more]
So in that, if I disregard the claims of storytellers who managed to have their stories of their ideas of 'the creator' published in the Bible, am I still stuck with facing the idea that 'the creator(s)' are evil?
I do not think so. Would you think so?
Basically my question better framed would be along the lines of...
"IF this is a creation we are experiencing THEN in examining the nature of the universe [specifically our 'home world'] do we recognize evil therein and from that can we ascertain that the creator(s) are therefore 'evil'?"
Does this question make sense to you? If so, how would you answer it?
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:25 pm
by Greatest I am
VVilliam wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:50 pm
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:33 pm
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:57 pm
Is love to be defined as 'just an emotion"?
If I defined 'god' as 'love', then yes.
You do not seem that simple.
Well I did say "IF"
Show the definition of love that you are using that says a genocidal mass murderer knows how to love.
Do you see a lot of love in Stalin and Hitler as well?
IF I define such actions as actions of 'love', then I probably would do, yes.
But do I actually?
I assume this is coming from the argument that the old testament idea of god is often reported doing the deplorable?
My own focus is on the idea the we all exist in some kind of holographic simulated reality experience so that naturally implies at least one creator [probably more]
So in that, if I disregard the claims of storytellers who managed to have their stories of their ideas of 'the creator' published in the Bible, am I still stuck with facing the idea that 'the creator(s)' are evil?
I do not think so. Would you think so?
Basically my question better framed would be along the lines of...
"IF this is a creation we are experiencing THEN in examining the nature of the universe [specifically our 'home world'] do we recognize evil therein and from that can we ascertain that the creator(s) are therefore 'evil'?"
Does this question make sense to you? If so, how would you answer it?
We live in a dualistic universe. Yin and Yang, or two sides to everything.
If you see only one good or evil side to either god or the Earth, you are not looking the right way.
Reality is mostly good.
All human to human evil pops out when we compete, as that is when a loser is created who would think evil has befallen him.
Your question is too long to fit allowed space.
The answer would be, yes. Our creator, nature, put both a good and evil side in us and we have to use both.
Have you heard Christians sing of sin being a happy fault and a necessity to god's plan?
I have, and nature would agree while ignoring the god reference.
Regards
DL
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:51 pm
by Sculptor
VVilliam wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:25 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:15 pm
Can unicorns sing La Marseillaise?
Yes - [and perhaps not even just the pink ones] but only on a planet which humans have yet to actually discover...unless of course we are actually completely the only sentient species which exists in the whole darn universe...
In other words you have no way to answer yes or no for this question or the one contained in the thread heading.
You might as well ask why god has to be such a bastard.
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:52 pm
by Sculptor
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:33 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:15 pm
Can unicorns sing La Marseillaise?
If god can love, sure.
Regards
DL
IF is very much the question unless you had not noticed.
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:32 pm
by attofishpi
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:51 pm
VVilliam wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:25 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:15 pm
Can unicorns sing La Marseillaise?
Yes - [and perhaps not even just the pink ones] but only on a planet which humans have yet to actually discover...unless of course we are actually completely the only sentient species which exists in the whole darn universe...
In other words you have no way to answer yes or no for this question or the one contained in the thread heading.
You might as well ask why god has to be such a bastard.
...because he has you on file.
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:55 pm
by Greatest I am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:52 pm
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:33 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:15 pm
Can unicorns sing La Marseillaise?
If god can love, sure.
Regards
DL
IF is very much the question unless you had not noticed.
Sure did.
If god is Yahweh or Jesus, the terrible twins, I will kill on sight.
Regards
DL
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:18 pm
by attofishpi
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:55 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:52 pm
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:33 pm
If god can love, sure.
Regards
DL
IF is very much the question unless you had not noticed.
Sure did.
If god is Yahweh or Jesus, the terrible twins, I will kill on sight.
Regards
DL
U R such an arrogant f'wit. U have no idea how easy your (and anyones) existence has been compared to those 'twins'.
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:00 pm
by Greatest I am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:18 pm
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:55 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:52 pm
IF is very much the question unless you had not noticed.
Sure did.
If god is Yahweh or Jesus, the terrible twins, I will kill on sight.
Regards
DL
U R such an arrogant f'wit. U have no idea how easy your (and anyones) existence has been compared to those 'twins'.
Fiction does not have life, let alone a bad life.
Thanks for the respectful post.
Regards
DL
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:09 pm
by attofishpi
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:00 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:18 pm
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:55 pm
Sure did.
If god is Yahweh or Jesus, the terrible twins, I will kill on sight.
Regards
DL
U R such an arrogant f'wit. U have no idea how easy your (and anyones) existence has been compared to those 'twins'.
Fiction does not have life, let alone a bad life.
Thanks for the respectful post.
Regards
DL
ooo, does my intellect detector detect sarcasm, but more importantly total ignorance and a lack of comprehension.
Re: Can God love?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:15 pm
by VVilliam
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:51 pm
VVilliam wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:25 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:15 pm
Can unicorns sing La Marseillaise?
Yes - [and perhaps not even just the pink ones] but only on a planet which humans have yet to actually discover...unless of course we are actually completely the only sentient species which exists in the whole darn universe...
In other words you have no way to answer yes or no for this question or the one contained in the thread heading.
You might as well ask why god has to be such a bastard.
Exactly. No one can acutely truthfully answer questions which are based upon assumptions or loosely defined concepts.
Comically, 'god' is a natural bastard because she did not have parents...