Typist wrote:
Probably not, so you can count on all the big players all across the globe, those with the majority of talent and resources, becoming your enemy.
Nope. An acquaintance of mine - who is kind of a genius - single-handedly cracked Sony's digital restriction management OpenMG. A few good nerds can bring down a shitstorm on any interweb "war machine".
Typist wrote:And I remind you, these governments and corporations whose private info you wish to "liberate" have control over the physical infrastructure of the Net.
False. Tho root name servers, which are not operated by U.S. government agencies are run by VeriSign, the University of Southern California, Cogent Communications, the University of Maryland, the Internet Systems Consortium, Netnod Internet Exchange i Sverige, Réseaux IP Européens Network Coordination Centre, ICANN and the Widely Integrated Distributed Environment Project.
Typist wrote:All the Wikileaks supporters have are individual computers, which are worthless unless connected to the Net, which you don't control.
Wrong. With monies from donations, Wikileaks can hire data centers, which it does. Your lords don't control it either, a concept those morons still haven't grasped.
Typist wrote:Wait, this is just the beginning of your problems.
You've not informed me of any problems.
Typist wrote:Your enthusiasm arises from a notion that this process of stealing private information property and splashing it across the web can be limited to those you don't like. You think you've discovered a new weapon that nobody else will have.
False. This information is not private, it was assembled by a government.
For the nth time, you still haven't quoted a single legal expert who stated that a theft has indeed occurred.
Typist wrote:Once the public understands that everybody will be vulnerable in the age of chaos you are offering us, they will turn on the movement you support. Once their own data is stolen and published, and the data of organizations they support, they will turn to governments, and demand a solution.
Again, it's the governments who are mining data on private citizens, not wikileaks supporters.
Typist wrote:The choice we have online is the same choice we've always had offline. Rule of law, or chaos.
Nope. It's corruption, hyporcrisy, oppression or transparency and accountability.
Typist wrote:You're not going to be able to sell the public on chaos, because a lawful and peaceful alternative is available to anybody who is serious. Change laws you don't like by a legal process.
It may not be illegal in all cuntries to DDoS foreign servers. The US government exerts pressure on most governments and ohter organizations in the world. How can citizens of other cuntries possibly use a legal process to change US laws?
I'm not actually familiar with the legality of DDoS in many cuntries. In Germany, the Netherlands and the UK it's illegal. In the UK, the mere download of LOIC can cause up to 2 years in prison, which almost makes them as democratic as North Korea. I don't know whether it's illegal to DDoS foreign servers in above cuntries though. If you have any additional information on the legality of DDoS in various cuntries and on the international arena, please provide evidence. Pardon me for not simply taking your word for it, as you have proven yourself time and time again to be full of shit.
Typist wrote:If you can't change the law legally, it's because most people don't agree with you.
In a direct democracy, this would be the case. In a parliamentary one, which is ripe with corruption, it usually ain't.
Typist wrote:Nobody wants all information to be public.
Nobody's arguing that.
Typist wrote:You're fighting a lost cause, and if you weren't consumed by the usual leftist need for a moral superiority pose, you'd see that.
Don't you ever get tired of your multi-cyclical coprophagia?
Typist wrote:
Unlike your master, my master has been showing some restraint. But, um, Mr. Assange is in jail now, isn't he?
Restrain't like calling out for the execution "for treason" of Assange?
Funny, didn't you say logic was my "god" a few threads back? So which is it?
Right, thus every government and corporation will be against you.
False. As you have seen, this is wrong, as some governments have reacted neutrally and others in support. Please show evidence, that companies other than MasterCard, PayPal, amazon, EveryDNS, or most banks are against wikileaks.
Right, because like you, they think this will be limited to people they don't like. Their attitude will change the moment their private data appears online.
Please get back to me when that happens. Pipe down before that.
And once this kind of war gets going, you can kiss the freedom of the Net goodbye.
Explain how.
Typist wrote:
That's exactly what you're advocating when you applaud attacks on websites you don't like.
That's not what I'm doing. I applaud pressuring sites to counter pressure they receive from governments as well as pressuring them if they act illegally, with the blessing of governments.
Google, Apple, Microsoft, Sun etc are far smarter and better resourced than your merry little band of fascist activists.
Fascists because they don't agree with the censorship of your assmasters? They haven't targeted those companies. And, as I said, you vastly underestimate freelance geeks.
You think you can fight every power in the world and win, and you are wrong.
I don't think that, nor did I ever claim to.
Yes, they have Internet access. You keep forgetting who actually controls that access. Yes, that's right, the government and corporations you are intent on going to war with.
False. ISPs, universities and ultimatey the US government foundations and corporations who run root name servers. I am only "intent to go to war with" a fraction of them. Furthermore, P2P technology is being developed to decentralize the web even more.