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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:20 pmHow do you define a 'left' or 'right' policy? Could you give me a breakdown?
A quick search on the internet, which is an action well within your capabilities, reveals logical places for you to begin shedding light on your ignorance concerning Left, and Right.

Here’s one at random that relies on those two terms, Left and Right, that are causing such mystification. A reliable way to educate yourself is to inquire how this particular analysis can be true, then branch out with further inquiries that reference other situations in terms of Left and Right, a branching out of intellectual growth all guided by your honest curiosity using the greatest research tool in the history of the world. In this way you can fearlessly venture into your unknowns when the knowns abandon your understanding ... simply said. And, you won't need other folks to teach you the ABC's of modern political venacular.

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The Return of the Right: The 2023 New Zealand General Election
30 NOV 2023
By Dr Matthew Gibbons
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au ... -election/
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Walker wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:36 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:20 pmHow do you define a 'left' or 'right' policy? Could you give me a breakdown?
A quick search on the internet, which is an action well within your capabilities, reveals logical places for you to begin shedding light on your ignorance concerning Left, and Right.

Here’s one at random that relies on those two terms, Left and Right, that are causing such mystification. A reliable way to educate yourself is to inquire how this particular analysis can be true, then branch out with further inquiries that reference other situations in terms of Left and Right, a branching out of intellectual growth all guided by your honest curiosity using the greatest research tool in the history of the world. In this way you can fearlessly venture into your unknowns when the knowns abandon your understanding ... simply said. And, you won't need other folks to teach you the ABC's of modern political venacular.

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The Return of the Right: The 2023 New Zealand General Election
30 NOV 2023
By Dr Matthew Gibbons
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au ... -election/
Smarmy little kunt. I asked how YOU define it, since you refer to 'the left' in practically every post, yet you never say what exactly you mean by that.
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Examine whether or not you're at odds with the modern venacular ... which apparently you are.

Then, you can branch out into understanding your misunderstandings specifically about Left and Right, and perhaps about other things.

Surprising that these basics must be explained to you, even after all this free guidance.

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Pathetic little worm.
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:lol:

You might want to work on that vocabulary.
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Well that's disappointing. Apparently Trump is incontinent and stinks of pooh. Oh well. Probably not the first nappy-wearing US President.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:32 amplease vote for Trump
Absolutely. If he's on the ballot: my lil ORANGE 🖕🏼 gets my vote.
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"Apparently Trump is incontinent and stinks of pooh"

No worries. He carries his own toilet paper on the campaign trail.
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promethean75 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:21 pm "Apparently Trump is incontinent and stinks of pooh"

No worries. He carries his own toilet paper on the campaign trail.
You have the weirdest leaders. Perhaps that's a good thing? At least there's no chance of deifing them.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:02 am
promethean75 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:21 pm "Apparently Trump is incontinent and stinks of pooh"

No worries. He carries his own toilet paper on the campaign trail.
You have the weirdest leaders. Perhaps that's a good thing? At least there's no chance of deifing them.
The Weirding Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U86aorxbBRY
“Some thoughts have a certain sound, that being equivalent to a form.”
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Military Weirding Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3_dmrM
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The Left’s Weirding Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs


(If you only watch one, (and how could you only,) watch the last one.)
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The question is, what is weird in Bizarro World?

This is weird in the USA.

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Also, valid ID's are no longer required to enter the country. Bizarro.
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Fears grow that Trump will use the military in ‘dictatorial ways’ if he returns to the White House
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... 000187e4e9
“We are preparing for litigation and preparing to use every tool in the toolbox that our democracy provides to provide the American people an ability to fight back,” said Skye Perryman, president of Democracy Forward. “We believe this is an existential moment for American democracy and it’s incumbent on everybody to do their part.”
Comment: If the media wasn’t part of the program, this little impromptu cabal could easily be reported as an insurrection conspiracy, i.e., a conspiracy to fundamentally change the executive branch into a function of special interests, rather than the intended Peoples’ Selection.
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Walker wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:28 pm Fears grow that Trump will use the military in ‘dictatorial ways’ if he returns to the White House
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... 000187e4e9
“We are preparing for litigation and preparing to use every tool in the toolbox that our democracy provides to provide the American people an ability to fight back,” said Skye Perryman, president of Democracy Forward. “We believe this is an existential moment for American democracy and it’s incumbent on everybody to do their part.”
Comment: If the media wasn’t part of the program, this little impromptu cabal could easily be reported as an insurrection conspiracy, i.e., a conspiracy to fundamentally change the executive branch into a function of special interests, rather than the intended Peoples’ Selection.
I think the question of whether or not elections in the US are genuinely democratic was settled during the COVID crisis. And the answer, clearly, was that it was not an uncorruptible process. We know that now, if only from the media's suppression of the Biden laptop, if not also from the many verifiable cases of vote tampering and ballot-box stuffing that were caught on film.

But now things are a step worse. Now, one party is trying to eliminate a candidate before he can even offer himself to the voting process. And there are no more excuses like COVID -- it's straight-up attempting to cook the election.

So I'm neither a Trump voter nor a Trump fan of any kind. But I am a fan of democratic voting. And if Trump is eliminated prior to the election, either through trumped-up prosecution or being de-listed from particular states, then there's no longer any reason to believe in the vote in the US at all. If the Democrats believe in democracy, they should let the candidates be the candidates, fight for the most transparent voting process, and let the best man win, or the most horrible man loose. If they don't, then what they believe in is partisan manipulation and gerrymandering, not democracy. So anybody who loves the democratic process should be pulling for that to happen. If it fails to happen, it de-legitimizes all further candidates and elections, essentially; we'll never be able to trust the process again, whether it favours Republicans or Democrats or independents.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:09 pm...
- I agree. That is a clear, true, and uncomplicated analysis.
- The voting process has been corrupted in order to corrupt the vote.
- However, I think that no more evidence, such as attempts to remove Trump from the ballot, is required to see this.

- In principle, the goal of The Left is not so much to keep Trump away. The goal is chaos and corruption as a principle of change. Chaos and corruption of systems has even been culturally romanticized in film, and film is a key into the minds of many these days.

- As such, the Left would welcome a retaliation for their attempts to keep Trump off the ballot.
- A retaliation would be for Red States to take Biden off the ballot, at which point the minions would holler … Hypocrites! :lol:
- And stupid Republicans would say gee, we can’t do that because it would make us hypocrites to do what shouldn't be done, and if we're hypocrites then the political terrorists win.
- Oh yes, the thinking of decent people really can be that naive and childish.

- Removing from the ballot the grifting head of the Biden Crime Family that receives sustenance from foreign interests that are not answerable to the USA, in exchange for political influence, would heap further chaos upon the integrity of the voting institution.

- This is the objective. As they say, this is how political terrorists win. This is how fundamental change works. First, make chaos that corrupts the system … just as they have destroyed the integrity and constitutional purpose of media as a check on government, corrupted the integrity and purpose of the military, the educational system, the legal system, the economy, transportation, the energy sector, public safety, the border … on and on. The purpose of this is not to better society, but to create chaos and confusion to seize and maintain power, which is the end result of corrupting the vote.
- (This is why we have impeachment to remove idiots like Brandon. Impeachment removal is beyond the boundaries of criminal law.)

- Chaos is the goal. The effect of chaos is corruption made possible by taking advantage of the crisis created by the chaos.

- The purpose of this is destruction of these institutions by corrupting them.

- Why? Ostensibly as justification for the minions, because the Left thinks that the whole system of governance was created for the benefit of the few, and built with the backs of many. In actuality, the destruction and corruption is done for raw power and the benefits of such power, not the benefit of the people. The Left does love their totalitarians.

- Folks know this is the way things are, but won’t admit it. However, those who knowingly climb onto the Bandwagon Fallacy are another topic.

- More and more The Left doesn’t even bother with ostensible reasons for their idiotic actions. For example, some folks agree that getting Trump off the ballot by any means necessary is perfectly fine … and they don’t even need a reason other than his picture, and the individuality of his style that doesn’t fit into notions of Central Casting for Presidents.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:09 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:28 pm Fears grow that Trump will use the military in ‘dictatorial ways’ if he returns to the White House
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... 000187e4e9
“We are preparing for litigation and preparing to use every tool in the toolbox that our democracy provides to provide the American people an ability to fight back,” said Skye Perryman, president of Democracy Forward. “We believe this is an existential moment for American democracy and it’s incumbent on everybody to do their part.”
Comment: If the media wasn’t part of the program, this little impromptu cabal could easily be reported as an insurrection conspiracy, i.e., a conspiracy to fundamentally change the executive branch into a function of special interests, rather than the intended Peoples’ Selection.
I think the question of whether or not elections in the US are genuinely democratic was settled during the COVID crisis. And the answer, clearly, was that it was not an uncorruptible process. We know that now, if only from the media's suppression of the Biden laptop, if not also from the many verifiable cases of vote tampering and ballot-box stuffing that were caught on film.

But now things are a step worse. Now, one party is trying to eliminate a candidate before he can even offer himself to the voting process. And there are no more excuses like COVID -- it's straight-up attempting to cook the election.

So I'm neither a Trump voter nor a Trump fan of any kind. But I am a fan of democratic voting. And if Trump is eliminated prior to the election, either through trumped-up prosecution or being de-listed from particular states, then there's no longer any reason to believe in the vote in the US at all. If the Democrats believe in democracy, they should let the candidates be the candidates, fight for the most transparent voting process, and let the best man win, or the most horrible man loose. If they don't, then what they believe in is partisan manipulation and gerrymandering, not democracy. So anybody who loves the democratic process should be pulling for that to happen. If it fails to happen, it de-legitimizes all further candidates and elections, essentially; we'll never be able to trust the process again, whether it favours Republicans or Democrats or independents.
Now, if people like "kim jong un", or like that of the "kim" family, want to run for presidency, then they should be allowed every right to, correct?

And, if people are stupid enough to vote for people like this, and/or for their families, then what happens after they get voted in, is just what the people really wanted also, right?

By the sounds of it here, some of these people, back then, really thought absolutely anyone should be allowed to run to preside over all of them, even if the one who wants to 'run to for presidency' could be completely and utterly fooling and deceiving the people all along the way.

Now, I agree people like "donald trump" should not be eliminated prior to an election in so-called "united states of america", and hopefully, "donald trump" does get voted in. Just so the people of that country get what they wanted, and deserved. Also, hopefully, "donald trump" is also able to work out how to further the terms of presidency and/or even make it so that that one cannot be removed, ever. That way the people of that country can really get what they Truly want, and Truly deserve, right?
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