PeteOlcott wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:37 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:06 pm
PeteOlcott wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:41 pm
"Can Carol correctly answer "no" to this question?"
Is the above an incorrect question when posed to Carol?
This verbatim question is the result of many years of research dating
back to 2004. It can be a game changer in philosophy.
How would this be a game changer? What would we learn or change?
My assertion is that every (yes/no) question that has no correct
yes/no answer because both answers are contradicted by the
question is an incorrect question.
I mean, if someone wants to label them that way, I won't be trying to publish attack pieces in academic journals. I'd prefer something like 'a question with a faulty assumption in it'. But hey, that's me. I think I could muster an argument but so far I don't feel very strongly. Perhaps if I knew how this is a game changer, I'd become adamant or swayed.
Three different researchers
have been involved in the question over the years.
What have they been doing?
I came up with the idea of an incorrect question back in 2004.
"What time is it (yes or no)?"
And HOW LONG, EXACTLY, did it take you to COME UP WITH 'this Truly ABSURD and NONSENSICAL QUESTION' here?
PeteOlcott wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:37 pm
Another guy came up with the original version of the above
question back in 2004.
"Will Jack's answer to this question be no?"
Another guy adapted the question:
"Can Carol correctly answer "no" to this question?"
and anchored a whole research paper in the idea that
the question has no correct yes/no answer within the
context that the question is posed to Carol.
BESIDES 'you', three people, WHO ELSE CARES?
PeteOlcott wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:37 pm
I am proceeding to anchor the correct interpretation of the
precise meaning of the question in the situational context
of discourse analysis. In other words if we do not include
who is being asked then we do not get the correct meaning
of the actual question.
1. WHICH "carol"?
2. 'Carol' is JUST A NAME, or LABEL, given to a HUMAN BODY, usually around the 'birth of THAT body'.
3. WHO, as in 'Who am 'I'?' EXACTLY, would have to be KNOWN, FIRST, BEFORE ANY of 'you' could even BEGIN to WORK OUT if 'you' ARE, or ARE NOT, INCLUDING 'the WHO', in 'the WHO' is being ASKED.
4. WHAT I can CLEAR SEE above here is just ANOTHER FORM of the ABSOLUTE ABSURD and RIDICULOUS lengths that SOME human being WILL GO to 'try to' come off SMARTER or CLEVER than "ANOTHER".