bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:39 am
I think choosing between multiple options is just a possible manifestation of free will, but not free will itself.
Because free will has to do with myself.
That is, I exist, as I, precisely because I am this same free will.
WHY then are 'you' NOT free?
bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:39 am
And I manifest myself to myself precisely through this will.
Is this One NOT ABLE TO manifest Its Self, through determinism?
If It can manifest Its Self, through free will, why could It NOT have done this determinedly or pre-determined the manifestation?
After all if It has 'free will', and/or IS 'free will', then It could have 'freely' pre-determined to make Its Self manifest, in the future.
bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:39 am
Which is free because it expresses myself.
You began by saying, "I exist" because "I am this free will", but now you say that 'it' is 'free will' that expresses "your" 'self'. So, does 'free will' do this, or is that 'I' 'free will'?
Also, are you even AWARE that the word/s "myself" implies and means TWO, and NOT One?
bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:39 am
I am this same freedom of will.
However, freedom is incompatible with nature.
There is nothing in nature that is free.
So, what would you like to put up as being what is in OPPOSITION of Nature, Itself?
bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:39 am
Because everything depends entirely on something else.
What does the 'Universe' depend entirely ON, EXACTLY?
What does 'Nature' depend entirely ON, EXACTLY? And even,
What does the 'I' depend entirely ON, EXACTLY?
bobmax wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:39 am
There is nothing that happens whose cause is truly attributable to a specific thing and nothing else. Not even the slightest component of this cause.
Why should I be different then?
Therefore this body of mine exists, this mind of mine exists, this will of mine exists... but do I really exist?
If, as you say, 'you' are manifesting "your" 'self" to "your" 'self', then what is being, supposedly, manifested to 'you' and/or "your" 'self'? Is 'it' some 'thing' REAL and EXISTING or is 'it' NOT.
Surely, ONLY 'you' would KNOW the answer to this question, of YOURS here, correct?