popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:09 pm
Jori wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:09 am
Some people don't believe in miracles, but some people do. Some even say that miracles happen everyday because highly improbable things happen all the time. Mathematically improbable things are to be expected, but we don't know exactly what improbable thing will happen and exactly when it will happen. For instance we expect someone to win the lottery, but we don't know who will win and when you will win.
Some people don't believe miracles in the sacred texts of religions. For me those miracles may be true or not, but it doesn't matter. What matters is the theological point of the story.
Jori,
Miracles are not available to those who engage in the process of critical thinking. The definition of miracles is an event/happening which defies the laws of nature inorder to occur, this simply doesn't happen. The holy scriptures were written at a time of great ignorance
And, when, in the future, people are reading these writings, if they were as JUDGMENTAL as this one is, then they ALSO could say that what was written in the days when these words are being written, they were written at a time of 'great ignorance' as well.
But, future people will become NOT as 'judgmental' as the people were at the time when this was being written, so they would NEVER write such an IGNORANT statement as you just did here.
Are you under some sort of illusion that in the time when this was being written that it was NOT of a time of 'great ignorance' AS WELL?
Or, do you seriously BELIEVE that in the days when you wrote this 'you' were NOT 'ignorant' "yourself"?
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:09 pm
and they have made that ignorace scared to believers.
Is this like the example, at the time when this was being written, when there were people CLAIMING that;
"We NEED money to live", "The Universe BEGAN and is EXPANDING", or that " God is a he", and those BELIEVERS were 'trying to' make that 'IGNORANCE' sacred to "others"?
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:09 pm
So, if the believer above all else wishes to remain a believer he/she must accept the absurd, the miracle.
And the EXACT SAME applies for EVERY generation of human beings. So, at ALL times while a human being is BELIEVING some 'thing' is true, when there is absolutely NO PROOF AT ALL for 'it', then they HAVE TO accept they they could be BELIEVING in the TOTALLY ABSURD.