treesforlife242 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:15 am
Currently, there is no way to define if actions are moral.
Presupposes the existence of (some) morality.
treesforlife242 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:15 am
Current day morality originate from the Bible’s basic rules, such as no killing and being kind. This is not based of logic, so how are we able to define good and bad.
The two Edenic trees are based on logic:
one causes living (forever) and the
other causes death (over death).
Logically, if one eats from the tree that causes death,
one is liable to die. If one eats from the tree that causes life,
one is liable to live.
The problem is humanity doesn't know what these two trees are, as
one of them is real 'knowledge' (to know) and the other is not (to believe).
These are the "roots": (to know) and (to believe). If/when you add in
the "operators" (all) and (not) you "logically" derive the solution(s):
(to know) all (thus) not (to believe) approaches all-knowing, god-or-no-god
(to believe) all (thus) not (to know) approaches all-belief-based ignorance(s)
causing/sustaining and/or otherwise impeding on the cessation of all manner
of human suffering.
The roots are reflected in/as the two legs, whereas
the operators are reflected in/as the two arms.
There are two possible directions from the apex of a pentagram,
just as there are two possible "orientations" one may be in
concerning which tree they chose to eat from.
treesforlife242 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:15 am
For example take hanging and quartering, why do we define that as bad? My opinion is that the 18th Century people felt it wrong not out of sympathy as they were criminals. Rather they were looking out their own health. They felt, if they were in that situation they would want a quick death. For example if they were caught in a criminal act they would want their suffering to be as little as possible, or they shouldn’t kill as it means someone might kill you. Therefore, the definition of bad, is anything which would make your life quality worse.
That is a terrible definition of "bad". Any " believer " can simply " believe "
someone else is responsible for their own quality of life being poor.
This is actually why Adam got kicked out of Eden: he could not account
for his own actions thus BLAMED the women. If you look at Islam, you will see
women wearing the hijab/niqab/burqa. That is the original sin of the man
being blamed/scapegoated onto the women because " believing " men
religiously " believe " that it is the woman's fault he can not control himself,
hence women in Islam are blamed for being raped, instead of the man.
Islam also happens to be the global root of Nazism/fascism/socialism, as
it takes a " believer " to " believe " themselves superior to another (Nazism)
and/or others are inferior to themselves. Thus in any conceivable
"believer vs. unbeliever" situation(s) (as Islam actively perpetuates)
all Nazis are pinned to the side of the " believers ".