jayjacobus wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:58 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:43 pm
jayjacobus wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:05 pm
Time exists without movement because there is a type of time that doesn't require movement. Newton deduced the existence of absolute time. So do I. I didn't make up the terms relational time and absolute time. I simply explained the difference.
Time never runs out.
The absolute time is inseparable from the experience of time.
Why do you say that? You experience relational time, not absolute time. Can you explain the difference between absolute time and relational time? You seem to be saying that they are the same thing. They are not the same. Absolute time comes before movement and relational time comes after movement.
Time may or may not rum out. It depends of the cause of absolute time.
I'll explain, but I'm not sure you will understand what is being said, unless you understand Nonduality. If you do not understand Nonduality what I say will not make sense to you. So in order for you to truly understand what is meant by FOREVER NOW....you will have to study Nonduality.
Okay here's my explanation...it's not going to be a prefect explanation, because words are dual by nature.
Difference is a mentally constructed idea, it's an illusory artifact imprinted upon the screen of consciousness which is absolute.
The human instrument for seeing is like a camera, a camera takes a picture, but the camera is not the picture. The one that appears to be looking out of your eyes is but one single snap-shot of the absolute already inclusive of the absolute, inseparable from it.
Each perspective of ''all that is'' is a tiny imprint upon the screen of consciousness, giving rise to the appearance of a separate seer seeing from a unique perspective, a unique snap-shot imprinted upon the screen of awareness. Every bodily mechanism shares that same one awareness, as the body is inseparable from awareness. Just as a camera shares the same reality with the reality it is taking snap-shot pictures of.
That each picture appears to be a different perspective is the illusory cause of a separate seer. But all these snap-shots are all appearances of the same one source. The movie of everything and nothing playing infinitely for eternity appearing to change upon the changeless screen of awareness.
The camera, aka the eye, aka the instrument for seeing is not the image it sees.
An image is simply a tiny snap-shot of ''all that is'' observing itself. So there is no actual observer, just the appearance of one as images appear on the screen of awareness the seer. The seer being inseparable from the seen, existing in the exact same unbroken now...aka the absolute.
All images are one of an infinite amount of images the absolute is seeing which cannot be determined or known to have a cause...therefore, all images are images of the imageless causeless undermined absolute one.. here now.. nowhere without beginning nor end.
The absolute being without cause. Cause is an appearance within the absolute, so the appearance of cause is already inclusive of the everything that is causeless, therefore cause is illusory because it's already contained within what is already present which is uncaused.
This implies that cause and effect cannot be separated from each other and an action cannot be separated from the next action. Cause and effect exist in the exact same moment as one singular action.There is no break in the symmetry which is absolute that can stop and determine differences, for there is only the absolute in which differences are inclusive appearances of what is already absolute that cannot be determined.
The force or energy that causes motion has no cause.Therefore, that which has no cause cannot possibly have an effect.
A single cause cannot be determined separate from the absolute that is always present.
In other words, cause and effect give birth to each other in the same moment, like the ocean waving to itself.
There is a third natural law of motion, which states that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. But this is already occurring within the absolute, not outside ... observing is from within itself, it's not outside looking in...it's inside looking out. All one unitary movement that has no cause, all phenomena therefore is the result of a causeless cause.
The important point to understand about motion is that the force or energy that causes motion has no cause.
Time is an illusion, it does not exist outside of this ever present timeless presence that is ''all that is'' absolute here now nowhere and nowhere else.
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