TSBU wrote:ken wrote:
Having one cent more than I need while I sit here and allow others to die is totally and utterly unethical, and repulsive.
like you, then.
I did say "I", did I not?
I spoke for me only.
I, unlike you, do not try to bundle what I do into what others do. I look at what I do and accept responsibility for what I do. I do NOT try to blame others for what I do, unlike others do.
TSBU wrote:
Human beings have survived for millions of years without money.
600000 years homo sapiens, 1,5 million years homo erectus (bipeds) 2,5 million years homo hhabilis (first tools). Before of that, aproximately 50 million years, monkeys. Before of that I don't know. Now go to a fucking cave and stop using your computer, you don't need it.
So, which one of them do
human beings belong to, or for how long have
human beings survived for?
If you do not know the answer to that, then I certainly will not judge you.
By the way did you notice
your 600000 years for homo sapiens is different than
surreptitious57's between 100 - 200 000 years for homo sapiens, so which one of '
you' is right?
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to infer with your last sentence. If you would like to elaborate please feel free to.
TSBU wrote:Thinking/believing we need money to live is also an attempt to justify the wrong and abusive behaviors we commit on each other,
Yeah, yeah, homo habilis were all in Narnia... and Homo sapines didn't kill other tribes or ate them. Because they didn't have money.
What are you trying to allude to here?
All I am saying is if human beings are still alive, and thus surviving, today, and they have come from times when there was no money, then OBVIOUSLY human beings do not need money to live.
I am not sure why you brought in the fact that human beings do kill and eat each other for? Would you like to elaborate the reason for doing this?
To use what is happening here as an example of how the Mind and the brain actually works first take notice of the people who are believing human beings need money to live. These people are looking at my statement from the brain only. The brain within that human body has obviously grown up within an environment where money has existed. From all of their experiences, or from the experiences that they are selectively choosing to look from, all they can see is that money is needed for human beings to live. To them human beings can not live without money, or some sort of universal currency. And, once they start to believe that this is "fact", then they have become completely closed. They will NOT look at anything else, even if facts are put in front of them. For example even the very obvious and simple fact that many human beings have lived and survived without money is still NOT proof to these people that human beings can live without money.
If, however, these people stopped believing, from only the knowledge that they have already obtained, which is stored within the brain, and, instead looked from a truly open perspective, or the Mind, then they can see that of course prior to their own personal experiences previous human beings have lived with, survived, and continued evolving without any money or universal currency whatsoever. The very fact that they are here is living proof that human beings can live without money. Their great ancestors had no money and human beings are still here. In fact there might be some tribes of human beings still today, or if not today only a relatively very short period of time ago, even in the same time period as those people who believe we need money to live who are living now lived, who are/were living within tribes without any money at all. Also, and more proof that human beings do not need money to live is the very simple and obvious fact that a family could born a child today, raise that child without any money at all, and then that child human being live for decades without any money whatsoever and die with never ever experiencing money is just more proof that human beings do NOT need money to live. To learn and discover more or new things comes from this truly open Mind, NOT from what is already believed to be true, which is held within a single brain. Being able to look from the Mind instead of just the brain only is all it takes to become a much wiser person.
while we go to work to obtain more and more money. In order to satisfy our learned greediness and obtain as much money as possible
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Noone wants money, they want what they can buy with it. [/quote]
What about the one's who do not spend money, the one's who just want to save money, do they not want money?
Is it not true, some people just want money, while others want the things money can buy? Some people in fact just want money and do not necessarily want things money can buy because some people save as much money as they can, just to pass it on when they die to a select few, generally their children.
I NEVER said people want money in this quote anyway.
Did you notice that I did NOT write the word 'want'? What I did write, however, was 'obtain'. I used the word 'obtain' so that some people would not make assumptions and jump to a conclusion, like you just did. But obviously my subtlety does not work on some people.
I used the word 'obtain' because this can infer either saving money OR spending money on what is wanted.
TSBU wrote:You are ridiculous.
I do not know what you are trying to allude to here so I looked up the word 'ridiculous', one definition given was
deserving or inviting derision or mockery; absurd.
If you believe I am deserving or inviting derision or mockery or absurd, then that is fine. You are free to choose to believe whatever you want. Or maybe 'ridiculous' means some thing else to you. I will await your clarification on this point.
By the way did you know there is a huge difference in the meaning of '
you' and '
I'. So, the statement,"
You are ridiculous", may well be very true, from
My perspective, but this may mean it is very poignant, from
your perspective. But then again it may not. We will just have to wait and see.