HexHammer wrote:Excatly what relevance do Nietzsche have? He's oudated and drags modern philosophy down.
How is he outdated?
If anything he was ahead of his time at the time he wrote..?
I'm no Nietzsche worshipper as some are but his contribution to modern existentialism is vast n'est pas?
For his time it was easy to make something "ahead of his time" when society lacked everything! Existentialism in itself is pure nonsens, and only for people lacking basic rationallity!
HexHammer wrote:Excatly what relevance do Nietzsche have? He's oudated and drags modern philosophy down.
How is he outdated?
If anything he was ahead of his time at the time he wrote..?
I'm no Nietzsche worshipper as some are but his contribution to modern existentialism is vast n'est pas?
For his time it was easy to make something "ahead of his time" when society lacked everything! Existentialism in itself is pure nonsens, and only for people lacking basic rationallity!
Existentialism is pure nonsense, now I am going to have to take umbrage at that, why in your opinion is existentialism pure nonsense?
These are pretty mighty statements, I think you need to at least justify them...
Nietzsche's Will To Power was about self overcoming. Things got confused when his sister published a book from his unpublished notes and called it Will to Power. She set up the Nietzsche archive which was where Hitler found his interest and purposes in Nietzsche. It was thoroughly representative of his thoughts. That said Nietzsche was greatly admiring of Darwin and the secular sciences, so he naturally saw will to power as existent as much in humans as other species. You could glean from books like Beyond Good and Evil and the Gay Science that N would have considered the third Reich as a weak force with temporary ascendancy over much more durable but temporarily weakened forces. Despite what is said he regarded morality as the most powerful social force, esp good morality. But social upheaval and phenomena were only shadows of the real battles in self-overcoming.
Wagner was a different kettle of fish altogether, his antisemitism seems fairly non-incidental, and more a matter of his complex psychology than anything else (he may have suspected that he had Jewish ancestory. But we can't talk of will to power, nietzsche and Wagner without including Schopenhaurer - but also one other: Rudolf Steiner. If anyone was heir to Nietzsche's legacy it was not his sister or Heideger or the existentialists, it was Steiner. Steiner actively stood up to anti-semitism and the Reich hated him, as they would have done Nietzsche.
Hence the opening seuquence of 2001: A Space Oddyssey: Thus Sprach Zarathustra by Strauss and then by Strauss again The Blue Danube as we pan up to view a space station, no relation but both composers obviously.
The aliens in the film search out intelligent life and then promote it to flourish, they are seen as so far above humans though, that direct contact is impossible, humans simply cannot comprehend a race that is so far above them as an ant is to God.
