tillingborn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:01 pm
I think I understand what authority is warranted, in your view; what I don't understand is how that authority affects our agreeing to be governed.
It's very simple: a morally good or right thinking person accords with legitimate authority, where such exists.
tillingborn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:02 am...a parent has legitimate authority to watch their child all the time, demand absolute obedience and threaten hideous punishment for failure....
Heh. Well, this is perverse. No such thing was said or implied. It's your pure fabrication.
It is what God does.
That's your view? You think that's who God is? You think that's how He operates?
Well, now I can say for certain you don't know God. But your mistake is common enough, I suppose.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:50 pmWell, now I can say for certain you don't know God. But your mistake is common enough, I suppose.
If it is a common error, I would hope that Christians have found a way to correct it. It is my understanding that God is omniscient; that he knows everything we ever do or think and will judge us accordingly. Is that not God?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:50 pmWell, now I can say for certain you don't know God. But your mistake is common enough, I suppose.
If it is a common error, I would hope that Christians have found a way to correct it.
They have. Many times. But not everybody has ears to hear it. Some people are more interested in dismissing the whole idea of God than in knowing Him. Sad, but true.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:13 pm
Who do YOU think God is? And how do YOU think he operates?
Let me refer you to the authoritative source, rather than to personal opinion. There are, in fact, 66 famous books on the subject. They're called "The Bible."
Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:13 pm
Who do YOU think God is? And how do YOU think he operates?
Let me refer you to the authoritative source, rather than to personal opinion. There are, in fact, 66 famous books on the subject. They're called "The Bible."
You write great volumes trying to invalidate all that you don't agree with, yet you refuse to explain in your own words why you believe what you do, and why you make the claims you do.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:13 pm
Who do YOU think God is? And how do YOU think he operates?
Let me refer you to the authoritative source, rather than to personal opinion. There are, in fact, 66 famous books on the subject. They're called "The Bible."
You write great volumes trying to invalidate all that you don't agree with, yet you refuse to explain in your own words why you believe what you do, and why you make the claims you do.
Ha. I haven't exactly been shy about that. You must not have read much of it, though.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:13 pm
Who do YOU think God is? And how do YOU think he operates?
Let me refer you to the authoritative source, rather than to personal opinion. There are, in fact, 66 famous books on the subject. They're called "The Bible."
Is God really the jealous god of Abraham who has to ask where Adam and Eve had wandered off to in the Garden of Eden after they ate the apples? Or is God the omniscient, benevolent, omnipotent God of the modern deists? The God of the Quran or the Vedas? Or is God something/someone else altogether?