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Re: What "side" are you on?

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VVilliam wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:34 am
I am reminded of an orchestra tuning their instruments while the house is filling with folk anticipating to hear fine music.
The tuning sounds themselves are alluring - promising the fine music the folk have come to hear.
Imagine the disappointment for the folk, if the orchestra continued tuning their instruments and never got around to actually playing the fine music promised.
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AND, what was being 'reminded' of 'this' in relation TO, EXACTLY?
The exactness you seek with your question is only apparent to those who have the eyes to see.

Thus, for SEEKING 'the ANSWER' IN and WITH WORDS.


Those who do not, cannot, and thus any answers to such who question, will not be understood for they do not having the ears to hear, the eyes to see, or the minds comprehend.

Are 'you' AWARE here that what 'you' SAID and WROTE just here does NOT ACTUALLY LOGICALLY follow?

Or, do 'you' BELIEVE that 'that body' HAS the so-called 'eyes to see' CRYSTAL CLEARLY and/or ABSOLUTELY?
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Re: What "side" are you on?

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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:49 pm
Age wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:11 pm

I'm talking about the end of life as we know it on Earth.
Which WOULD BE THE GREATEST 'thing' that EVER HAPPENED TO 'you', human beings, AND THE REST OF planet earth and EVERY 'thing' ELSE on earth.

BECAUSE 'the life' I KNOW OF, on earth, in the days when this was being written WAS a FAR MORE 'war-torn, pollution-riddled, and stressful life' than 'it' was NOT. So, with 'that life' ENDING and 'the Truly Peaceful, stress less, pollution-free, loving and harmonious life' beginning AFTER 'the DEATH' of 'that OLD life' would be GREAT TO SEE, and LIVE through.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:11 pm I'm talking about escalating war between humans, and global environmental catastrophe.
'you' SPEAK, WRITE, and talk ABOUT 'these things' here as though it is NOT 'you', adult human beings, who are the ONES who ARE CAUSING and CREATING 'them'.

Are 'you' STILL NOT YET AWARE "gary childress" that the ONLY ONES CAUSING and CREATING 'those things' ARE 'you', ADULT human beings, SOLELY?
Age's "final solution", extermination of humanity would be a blessing according to him.
Talk ABOUT providing A PRIME example of NOT WANTING TO LISTEN, and thus ending up have MISSED THE POINT, ABSOLUTELY, and COMPLETELY.
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:49 pm FUCKING ADOLF. GO ROT IN HELL. HYPOCRITE! YOU WANT HUMANS DEAD. DO YOU INCLUDE YOURSELF IN THAT, HYPOCRITE!
WHEN, and IF, you STOP MAKING CLAIMS that ARE ABSOLUTELY False, like this one here IS, or you ARE OPEN to your CLAIMS being False and Wrong,THEN, and ONLY THEN, 'we' can PROCEED in having a 'logically reasoned discussion' to FIND OUT what the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth REALLY IS, EXACTLY.
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Re: What "side" are you on?

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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:01 pm
Age wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:07 am It could well be a so-called 'verbal dominance move'. BUT, NOT necessarily 'dominance' in the sense OVER someone, but in the sense of SHOWING or REVEALING some 'thing', which, by the way, was NEVER a 'put down' of ANY one NOR ANY group, but was A REVELATION of what 'people' DID, BACK in a 'previous time'.
You mean people like yourself included, of course, right?
YEP, OF COURSE.

WHY would 'you' have even BEGAN TO PRESUME OTHERWISE?
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Re: What "side" are you on?

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VVilliam wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:34 am

The exactness you seek with your question is only apparent to those who have the eyes to see.

Thus, for SEEKING 'the ANSWER' IN and WITH WORDS.


Those who do not, cannot, and thus any answers to such who question, will not be understood for they do not having the ears to hear, the eyes to see, or the minds comprehend.
Age wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:23 am Are 'you' AWARE here that what 'you' SAID and WROTE just here does NOT ACTUALLY LOGICALLY follow?

Or, do 'you' BELIEVE that 'that body' HAS the so-called 'eyes to see' CRYSTAL CLEARLY and/or ABSOLUTELY?
Yes, I am aware that there are those who will "see" things "that way" (your questions verify that.) - which is besides the point which was made.

The point which was made and received as intended, (to be understood in a particular way) - having being understood by the mind perceiving it - can be evidenced in this post reply.
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Re: What "side" are you on?

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VVilliam wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:10 am
VVilliam wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:34 am

The exactness you seek with your question is only apparent to those who have the eyes to see.

Thus, for SEEKING 'the ANSWER' IN and WITH WORDS.


Those who do not, cannot, and thus any answers to such who question, will not be understood for they do not having the ears to hear, the eyes to see, or the minds comprehend.
Age wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:23 am Are 'you' AWARE here that what 'you' SAID and WROTE just here does NOT ACTUALLY LOGICALLY follow?

Or, do 'you' BELIEVE that 'that body' HAS the so-called 'eyes to see' CRYSTAL CLEARLY and/or ABSOLUTELY?
Yes, I am aware that there are those who will "see" things "that way" (your questions verify that.) - which is besides the point which was made.

The point which was made and received as intended, (to be understood in a particular way) - having being understood by the mind perceiving it - can be evidenced in this post reply.
So, absolutely ANY one could CLAIM to have received 'the point', which was being 'made' by "another", AND of having received 'it' 'as intended', right?

If yes, then this may better illustrate 'the point' I have been making here, 'as intended', about how quickly 'you', human beings, can and do JUMP to making ASSUMPTIONS and CONCLUSIONS, BEFORE 'you' have even OBTAINED ACTUAL CLARITY, and 'the point' about how 'the EXACT SAME point', which is being made and how 'it 'is intended', can get all to easily and simply, TOTALLY and COMPLETELY LOST, MISSED, MISUNDERSTOOD, MISCOMMUNICATED, MISINTERPRETED, and/or MISPERCEIVED even to the point where two people can end up having to COMPLETELY OPPOSING CONCLUSIONS WHILE BOTH ALSO BELIEVE THAT 'they' KNOW what was EXACTLY INTENDED by the writer, speaker, or artist.

Which, by the way, has been extremely funny to WATCH and OBSERVE 'play out' over the centuries, and especially within this forum. 'you', people, here actually go on as though 'you' REALLY BELIEVE that 'you', "each" individually, KNOW what past so-called "philosophers" ACTUALLY MEANT, and ACTUALLY INTENDED TO MEAN, by their words and writings, and then ACTUALLY BICKER and FIGHT WITH "each other" OVER 'your' OWN 'personal VIEWS and personal BELIEFS'.

Once the 'author of any art', words, paintings, pictures, drawings, sculptors, or any other form of art is NOT 'around' anymore or is NOT able to UNDERSTAND the CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ASKED to 'them', THEN what was ACTUALLY MEANT, or what was INTENDED, can NEVER EVER BE KNOWN and UNDERSTOOD, COMPLETELY.

Unless, OF COURSE, 'the author's of 'the art' COMMUNICATED the 'INTENDED MEANING' CRYSTAL CLEARLY.

Oh, and by the way, some 'pieces of art' were NEVER INTENDED TO BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD, UNTIL A 'later date'. For example, like just about ALL 'religious scriptures'.

And, ONCE AGAIN, WATCHING and OBSERVING 'you', adult human beings, BICKERING, FIGHTING, and even KILLING 'each other" OVER and BECAUSE OF 'your' OWN PERSONAL, MISINTERPRET,VIEWS and BELIEFS, ALONE, although being ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING, and HORRIFYING, and EXTREMELY TRAUMATIC FOR ALL CHILDREN, has been FUNNY to 'PLAY OUT' among 'you', ADULTS.

But KNOWING the ACTUAL and FULL PURPOSE for ALL of what has happened and is occurring MAKES 'it' ALL MAKE SENSE.

SEE the human animal BEST learns by 'its' OWN MISTAKES, but ONLY WHEN 'it' IS FULLY and COMPLETELY Honest and OPEN about 'its' MISTAKES/WRONG DOING, and TAKES COMPLETE and FULL RESPONSIBILITY for said mistakes and Wrong doing by seriously Wanting TO CHANGE, for the human animals children's SAKES, and by JUST DOING 'IT'. That is; by JUST ALWAYS STAYING OPEN WITH the SOLE INTENTION OF CHANGING, FOR THE BETTER/MENT, FOR ALL ("others"), and thus, REALLY, FOR thy 'Self', AS WELL.
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Re: What "side" are you on?

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So Age, are you trying to say : people choose side and all we are doing then we get better in arguing this side. The big problem is we are not seeing this and all arguments we think they are wright are obviously not complete because they are onesided. ? At the end of your original post, you said, like i understand, you adult people...This is your one sided claim. You can not know how adult people shouild behave if you are not one of them, ypu can not know if you were adult that you wouldt made more wars, lets see your post and arguments, you are acting as one of most aggresive one. Let me see if you get the both points.
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Re: What "side" are you on?

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As I remarked - "There are no sides which are real".

Even "non-humans" observing human "folly" and remarking about it conveys the idea "they" are "on a side".
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