The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

What an inconsiderate little turd you are.

Why? How is my leaving other folks alone to live as they choose, and my expecting to be left alone to live as I choose, inconsiderate?

Expect the same 'consideration' in return.

I fully expect for others to recognize and respect my exclusive claim to my life, liberty, and property just as I recognize and respect their exclusive claims to their own lives, liberties, and properties.

Nice way to make everyone's lives as miserable as possible (including your own).

I truly can't see how folks recognizing and respecting each other's claims to their own lives, liberties, and properties can make anyone other than busybodies and slavers miserable.

I don't think that living next to a pile of nuclear waste would be pleasant. What an obnoxious, spoilt little entitled brat your parents brought you up to be. Not unusual in your country though.

[henry quirk]

If everyone is considerate of one another then society can function reasonably well.

Yes. So leave the other guy alone.

[henry quirk]

I don't think that living next to a pile of nuclear waste would be pleasant.

First, you obviously don't know diddly about fission plants. The waste is minimal.

Second, as usual, you aren't thinkin' things thru. if I willy-nilly stored lethally radioactive materials on my property, I'd be violating my neighbors' lives, liberties, and properties.

[Gary Childress]

No, civilization comes from a general recognition of and respect for the exclusive moral claim one has to one's life, liberty, and property. Government is not required.

Well if you define, "civilization" by what a society accomplishes, such as having infrastructure, an Internet, satellites, space exploration, great cathedrals, pyramids, and whatnot, then those things require cooperation to build and maintain. Large projects require something more than an anarchist collective or a place like Somalia to do. Some things, pyramids, and cathedrals, may seem like a waste of time and resources to us. I don't know if the same thing can be said of the Internet and space exploration. I guess time will be the judge on those matters. But the first one to pull together a large government that it can sustain basically rules over the rest of the world. I think history is pretty clear in that respect. Maybe we'll eventually be able to accomplish things without slavery, indentured servitude, and enormous sacrifice on the part of some in order for others to live in opulence.

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[vegetariantaxidermy]

If everyone is considerate of one another then society can function reasonably well.

Yes. So leave the other guy alone.

You are a dickhead. That's exactly what I'm saying. Don't assault his ears. Don't assault his eyes. Don't assault his nose. Don't take away his sunlight. Let him live peacefully. And unless you have been living under a rock, that only happens with appropriate laws in place, because many people are giant kunts who don't give a flying rat's arse about anyone but themselves, and they are too thick to see that making a shit-hole means that they have to live in a shit-hole. I suppose that's what they want, because then they can whine about how 'underprivileged' they are.

[henry quirk]

Well if you define, "civilization" by what a society accomplishes, such as having infrastructure, an Internet, satellites, space exploration, great cathedrals, pyramids, and whatnot, then those things require cooperation to build and maintain.

Sure. But you don't need government for that.

Large projects require something more than an anarchist collective or a place like Somalia to do.

Why do you think natural right libertarianism (anarchism) translates into collectives or Somalia?

But the first one to pull together a large government that it can sustain basically rules over the rest of the world.

Yes. That's how slaver states work.

Maybe we'll eventually be able to accomplish things without slavery, indentured servitude, and enormous sacrifice on the part of some in order for others to live in opulence.

We do this already. Every great public work was accomplished by free men, choosing to work together. Government merely provided its typically poor oversight. All these projects could have been accomplished without it. Every great boondoggle -- like pyramids -- was forced on an unwilling population.

[henry quirk]

Don't assault his ears. Don't assault his eyes. Don't assault his nose. Don't take away his sunlight. Let him live peacefully.

Yes.

And unless you have been living under a rock, that only happens with appropriate laws in place, because many people are giant kunts who don't give a flying rat's arse about anyone but themselves, and they are too thick to see that making a shit-hole means that they have to live in a shit-hole.

Yes.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Don't assault his ears. Don't assault his eyes. Don't assault his nose. Don't take away his sunlight. Let him live peacefully.

Yes.

And unless you have been living under a rock, that only happens with appropriate laws in place, because many people are giant kunts who don't give a flying rat's arse about anyone but themselves, and they are too thick to see that making a shit-hole means that they have to live in a shit-hole.

Yes.

So you think the word 'appropriate' is some sort of 'gotcha' moment for you? FFS. If that's what you call an 'argument' then why even bother.
Ok then, with LAWS in place. Ones that make it less easy for people to be their natural shit-head selves!

[henry quirk]

So you think the word 'appropriate' is some sort of 'gotcha' moment for you? FFS. If that's what you call an 'argument' then why even bother.

No gotcha. You'd agree there are appropriate laws and inappropriate laws, yeah?

Ok then, with LAWS in place. Ones that make it less easy for people to be their natural shit-head selves!

Yes. Folks ought to have whatever laws they need.

[Immanuel Can]

Does Bernie Sanders have "mansions"? I read he has 3 homes, the most expensive of which is a "summer home" in Vermont that he apparently paid ~500,000 for in 2016. I mean, it's not exactly Mar-a-Lago.

Well, Bernie says he's a Socialist. So how many homes do you suppose a good "Socialist" usually should own, when the average American person can no longer even afford one? And how many should a globalist own, when Socialists globally don't even get to own one home?

Socialism's apparently a rather selective creed. It turns out to be very generous to its overlords...not so much to the peasantry.

I suppose you can have money but still give a shit about others?

Not and be a Socialist. As a Socialist, you're supposed to believe that it's "from each, according to his ability, to each, according to his need." Nobody "needs" three houses. And Socialists think you don't even need one, so long as the government can own your dwelling. So any way we look at it, Bernie's an odd kind of "Socialist."

[Immanuel Can]

Large projects require something more than an anarchist collective or a place like Somalia to do.

Ahem.

https://countrystudies.us/somalia/24.htm

Welcome to yet another Socialist disaster...Somalia.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

So you think the word 'appropriate' is some sort of 'gotcha' moment for you? FFS. If that's what you call an 'argument' then why even bother.

No gotcha. You'd agree there are appropriate laws and inappropriate laws, yeah?

Ok then, with LAWS in place. Ones that make it less easy for people to be their natural shit-head selves!

Yes. Folks ought to have whatever laws they need.

Yeah. It's called having an election, even if you personally might not agree with all of them. Unless you have a better system then you might as well just stfu.

[Immanuel Can]

Yes. Folks ought to have whatever laws they need.

Yeah. It's called having an election, even if you personally might not agree with all of them. Unless you have a better system then you might as well just stfu.

Unless you believe that Joe Biden is the most popular presidential candidate in American history -- well ahead of Kennedy, Lincoln, Reagan, Clinton and Obama -- then you have good reason to wonder just what happened in the last election. That's what the raw statistics promoted as the "results" by the Dem party tell us all we have to believe...Biden-Harris was overwhelmingly popular, more so than all those others, including the Dems themselves.

We might not know much, but we can be quite sure that the outcome had little enough to do with "elections."

[henry quirk]

It's called having an election, even if you personally might not agree with all of them.

If hiring folks to direct you is what you want, then keep doin' that.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

It's called having an election, even if you personally might not agree with all of them.

If hiring folks to direct you is what you want, then keep doin' that.

Right, so your 'system' will be every individual (all 300 million of them) will have their own little set of laws that suit their own individual needs, and of course everyone else will stick to everyone else's individual set of laws. You are an imbecile.