seeds wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:01 pm
Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:01 pm
as I am old, I recall watching TV in the old days,
and one of the set pieces of variety shows in the
1950' and 60's were men dressing as women....
if you were a movie or TV star back in the day,
you would, at one point or another appear in drag on TV...
Milton Berle for example, appear in drag in multiple shows
and being old, I can remember people like Dean Martin and
I seem to recall even John Wayne doing a show in drag with
multiple other male movie stars...
I grew up with that, it wasn't a scary thing like it is today,
and it was humorous, taken for laughter, it wasn't the life and
death thing it is today.... and one of the best rated comedy
movies of all time, was based on men dressing as women,
"Some like it hot".... and it is still a hilarious movie..
but why has men dressing as women created so much fuss
and downright unpleasantness?
it has nothing to do with cross dressing, it has everything to do
with men feeling insecure... Ron DeSantis who clearly hates
drag shows, really is pointing out that he has a image problem...
he is insecure with being a man...it has nothing to do with drag
shows and everything to do how these people feel about themselves...
men who are truly secure with who they are and their sexuality,
have no fear about drag shows... it doesn't bother us if men
wear dresses... who cares? but conservatives who fear everything
and I mean everything, are afraid of other men cross dressing,
they will find any excuse to ban it....
to "protect" the children
is a lie....
I too am old, and I too grew up watching the shows you mentioned, and I have no problem with them.
As other examples, I loved Curley Howard's and Stan Laurel's comedic portrayals of females...
However, are we to understand that you personally would have no problem taking your 4-year-old grandchild (perhaps a little girl) to this drag queen's library reading show...
...where
he could
"accidently" expose
his nasty crotch to her???
Furthermore, in what way could it possibly be "healthy" to expose little children to the hideous vision of this grown man's bizarre and twisted lifestyle?...
Let's hear your "defense" of these things.
K: where one COULD possible see a man's penis, and if pigs had wings,
they could fly...how about a women's dress where one COULD possible see
a woman's vagina? Do you feel any better about that? your coulda,
shoulda, woulda....can be thought about anything.... for example,
a woman who wears a white bikini runs the risk of having that
women's nipple and areola being shown... it might run the risk
of corrupting our children.. oh no, not corrupting our children!!!!!
and we already teach children to see grown men bizarre and
twisted lifestyle.. or have you forgotten about "Santa Claus" or
what about witches, in the female category......
you have forgotten that childhood is full of images of people dressing
and acting in bizarre and twisted ways..
how about the book, "Alice in Wonderland".... or what about Kabuki theatre...
should we ban that as being "unhealthy" for children? The entirety of
childhood literature from the beginning of time has been about
bizarre and twisted people... or have you forgotten the tales of
the Brother Grimm? The incredible cruelty and violence of the original
folktales are legendary... is that the type of twisted and bizarre
people you are talking about? most of Disney is about twisted
and bizarre people doing twisted and bizarre things...
or have you forgotten the recent movie, "The Beauty and the Beast"
or perhaps, the classic "Sleeping Beauty"... that is one sick fuck
who thought of that..... death is a common theme in these plays,
movies and books... is that something we want to have "innocent"
children think about.. because it might corrupt them into becoming
mass murderers? coulda, woulda, shoulda.....
or perhaps we should not engage in this modern mass of
twisted and bizarre books, movies, literature and engage
in the wholesome book, "the bible"
that ''the bible'' is one of the most pornographic books ever
written can't be denied... it has incest, mass murder,
masturbation, it defends slavery and the gruesome torture of
Job... because of a bet between god and Satan....
and you see that as being good and clean wholesome fun?
if you deny things because they might depict, might depict
twisted and bizarre people, you have basically shut down
all the literature and movies and plays ever made... watching
sports on TV.. no, that is showing children, violence between adults,
what about cartoons? even more graphic violence...
just exactly how far are you going in "protecting" the children?
Kropotkin