Is morality objective or subjective?

Should you think about your duty, or about the consequences of your actions? Or should you concentrate on becoming a good person?

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Will Bouwman
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Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

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Will Bouwman wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 8:41 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:53 pm... no other theory has anything close to the empirical data to make it reasonable to suppose at all.
What empirical data do you have that makes your view more plausible than George Berkeley's idealism, for example?
Perhaps it's sinking in.
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Will Bouwman wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 8:41 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:53 pm... no other theory has anything close to the empirical data to make it reasonable to suppose at all.
What empirical data do you have that makes your view more plausible than George Berkeley's idealism, for example?
Correct! There is no empirical data that makes your theory more plausible than many others. You just happen to prefer it for personal reasons.
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Will Bouwman wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 12:02 pm
Will Bouwman wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 8:41 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:53 pm... no other theory has anything close to the empirical data to make it reasonable to suppose at all.
What empirical data do you have that makes your view more plausible than George Berkeley's idealism, for example?
Correct! There is no empirical data that makes your theory more plausible than many others. You just happen to prefer it for personal reasons.
Did you break IC?
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 12:03 pmDid you break IC?
Wasn't me, guv.
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Age wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:45 pm
Harbal wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:31 pm You are right; who needs tradition?
This is twice that you have absolutely completely misread and misunderstood what I have said and written here.
Harbal could have misread and misunderstood Age absolutely, or he could have done so completely, but no, he had to do it absolutely completely. We are all speechless..
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Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 1:58 pm
Age wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:45 pm
Harbal wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:31 pm You are right; who needs tradition?
This is twice that you have absolutely completely misread and misunderstood what I have said and written here.
Harbal could have misread and misunderstood Age absolutely, or he could have done so completely, but no, he had to do it absolutely completely. We are all speechless..
Yet you, still, 'spoke' here.
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Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

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Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 1:58 pm
Age wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:45 pm
Harbal wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:31 pm You are right; who needs tradition?
This is twice that you have absolutely completely misread and misunderstood what I have said and written here.
Harbal could have misread and misunderstood Age absolutely, or he could have done so completely, but no, he had to do it absolutely completely. We are all speechless..
Wait, that's only two of the same things. Ken always does three of the same thing. It should be absolutely, completely, and fully

We need to check Ken in case he got one of those Kennedy brain worms and it ate his third-same-thing-lobe.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:36 pm
Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 1:58 pm
Age wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:45 pm

This is twice that you have absolutely completely misread and misunderstood what I have said and written here.
Harbal could have misread and misunderstood Age absolutely, or he could have done so completely, but no, he had to do it absolutely completely. We are all speechless..
Wait, that's only two of the same things. Ken always does three of the same thing. It should be absolutely, completely, and fully

We need to check Ken in case he got one of those Kennedy brain worms and it ate his third-same-thing-lobe.
How can they be the same things when there are different words with different definitions?

If different words have the exact same definitions, then some of those human being made up words are completely and utterly redundant, right?
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Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

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Age wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 7:47 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:36 pm
Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 1:58 pm
Harbal could have misread and misunderstood Age absolutely, or he could have done so completely, but no, he had to do it absolutely completely. We are all speechless..
Wait, that's only two of the same things. Ken always does three of the same thing. It should be absolutely, completely, and fully

We need to check Ken in case he got one of those Kennedy brain worms and it ate his third-same-thing-lobe.
How can they be the same things when there are different words with different definitions?

If different words have the exact same definitions, then some of those human being made up words are completely and utterly redundant, right?
Or at least unnecessary, or unessential, or needless, or dispensable.
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Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

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Age wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 7:47 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:36 pm
Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 1:58 pm
Harbal could have misread and misunderstood Age absolutely, or he could have done so completely, but no, he had to do it absolutely completely. We are all speechless..
Wait, that's only two of the same things. Ken always does three of the same thing. It should be absolutely, completely, and fully

We need to check Ken in case he got one of those Kennedy brain worms and it ate his third-same-thing-lobe.
How can they be the same things when there are different words with different definitions?

If different words have the exact same definitions, then some of those human being made up words are completely and utterly redundant, right?
Not only completely and utterly redundant, but also totally and thoroughly unnecessary, also fully and unconditionally inessential, and altogether and ultimately superfluous.

Spare, in a final and limitless sense.
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Harbal wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 8:17 pm
Age wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 7:47 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:36 pm
Wait, that's only two of the same things. Ken always does three of the same thing. It should be absolutely, completely, and fully

We need to check Ken in case he got one of those Kennedy brain worms and it ate his third-same-thing-lobe.
How can they be the same things when there are different words with different definitions?

If different words have the exact same definitions, then some of those human being made up words are completely and utterly redundant, right?
Or at least unnecessary, or unessential, or needless, or dispensable.
Yes thank you. At least them, indeed.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 8:54 pm
Age wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 7:47 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:36 pm
Wait, that's only two of the same things. Ken always does three of the same thing. It should be absolutely, completely, and fully

We need to check Ken in case he got one of those Kennedy brain worms and it ate his third-same-thing-lobe.
How can they be the same things when there are different words with different definitions?

If different words have the exact same definitions, then some of those human being made up words are completely and utterly redundant, right?
Not only completely and utterly redundant, but also totally and thoroughly unnecessary, also fully and unconditionally inessential, and altogether and ultimately superfluous.

Spare, in a final and limitless sense.
Yes, this is why different words with different meaning actually exist.
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Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

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Age wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:31 pm
Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 1:58 pm
Age wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:45 pm

This is twice that you have absolutely completely misread and misunderstood what I have said and written here.
Harbal could have misread and misunderstood Age absolutely, or he could have done so completely, but no, he had to do it absolutely completely. We are all speechless..
Yet you, still, 'spoke' here.
It's totally, entirely, perfectly, wholly, 100% true that I did press some keyboard buttons, but is that really speaking?
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Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 9:57 pm
Age wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:31 pm
Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 1:58 pm
Harbal could have misread and misunderstood Age absolutely, or he could have done so completely, but no, he had to do it absolutely completely. We are all speechless..
Yet you, still, 'spoke' here.
It's totally, entirely, perfectly, wholly, 100% true that I did press some keyboard buttons, but is that really speaking?
Maybe you really, have not been saying anything at all here.
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Re: Is morality objective or subjective?

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Age wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 8:48 am
Atla wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 9:57 pm
Age wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 6:31 pm

Yet you, still, 'spoke' here.
It's totally, entirely, perfectly, wholly, 100% true that I did press some keyboard buttons, but is that really speaking?
Maybe you really, have not been saying anything at all here.
If you say so.
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