JohniJones

JohniJones · Post by **JohniJones** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:56 pm

BSc chem, MA philosophy, LRIC biochem, Wittgensteinian provocateur,
http://johnivorjones.blogspot.com/

Arising_uk · Post by **Arising_uk** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:48 pm

Welcome JJ,
Hope you enjoy it here. Which version of Wittgenstein are you provoking?

Typist · Post by **Typist** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:58 am

Welcome,

Would you like to elaborate on "Wittgensteinian provocateur"?

dawnmathieson · Post by **dawnmathieson** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:10 am

Thats some serious credentials. do you sign your name with all those letters? i would x

JohniJones · Post by **JohniJones** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:21 am

I naturally take, without study, a Wittgensteinian perspective.

This makes me an object of hate in philosophy. Even supposed Wittgensteinians hate me.

My average survival time on moderated forums is three weeks.

Most writers on philosopohy sites are anti-Kantian, anti-Wittgensteinian. It is a default, natural position, in the blood. Those that aren't generally recognise each other, but survival rates for these people are low.

Typist · Post by **Typist** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:26 am

I naturally take, without study, a Wittgensteinian perspective. This makes me an object of hate in philosophy. Even supposed Wittgensteinians hate me.

What is a Wittgensteinian perspective?

It seems I'll need to know that if I'm going hate you too.

Just kidding!

Seriously, please articulate the Wittgensteinian perspective. I've heard mention of the fellow, but that's about it.

Thanks!

JohniJones · Post by **JohniJones** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:01 am

Typist wrote:
I naturally take, without study, a Wittgensteinian perspective. This makes me an object of hate in philosophy. Even supposed Wittgensteinians hate me.
What is a Wittgensteinian perspective?

It seems I'll need to know that if I'm going hate you too. Just kidding!

Seriously, please articulate the Wittgensteinian perspective. I've heard mention of the fellow, but that's about it.

Thanks!

You will hate me.
I write playfully and will advance a lie for a better purpose.
But you will, let's say 75% chance at least, reject me wholsesale.

You are lucky. I have just posted on General Philosophy about the Wittgensteinian perspective, "as old as blood" which is a transcendentally ideal view.

Typist · Post by **Typist** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:44 pm

You will hate me. I write playfully and will advance a lie for a better purpose. But you will, let's say 75% chance at least, reject me wholsesale.

Can I learn more about you before diving in to hating you?

Like who are you, what do you do, where do you do it, why do you do it, and stuff like that?

You are lucky. I have just posted on General Philosophy about the Wittgensteinian perspective, "as old as blood" which is a transcendentally ideal view.

Ok, I'm off to check it out, thanks!

Arising_uk · Post by **Arising_uk** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:53 am

JohniJones wrote:I naturally take, without study, a Wittgensteinian perspective.
...

How would you know this without study?

mickthinks · Post by **mickthinks** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:01 am

JohniJones wrote:My average survival time on moderated forums is three weeks.

You make this sound almost like a boast. In my experience, people who boast about being banned are usually hoping it'll happen again and end up going out of their way to make themselves unwelcome. I hope you aren't one of those, John.

chaz wyman · Post by **chaz wyman** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:01 am

I has a quick dip into your blog.

But, until the arrival of Homo Sapiens, species have been the dominant vessel for life.

I think the inverse of this is true. Life never needed any vessel. It was not until humans defined the vessel 'species' that such an entity was significant at all.
Life is not concerned with anything, not even with its own preservation.

Arising_uk · Post by **Arising_uk** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:42 am

But, until the arrival of Homo Sapiens, species have been the dominant vessel for life.

What the hell? How is 'life' an entity other than the living things themselves?

dawnmathieson · Post by **dawnmathieson** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:56 pm

Its not that everyone hates those perspectives its just that they are often hard to justify in a modern context. also Wittgenstein does love to be pedantic and contrary! x

JohniJones · Post by **JohniJones** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:36 am

Arising_uk wrote:
JohniJones wrote:I naturally take, without study, a Wittgensteinian perspective.
...
How would you know this without study?

I am Wittgenstein.

Impenitent · Post by **Impenitent** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:47 am

early or late?

-Imp

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