Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:00 am
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 7:54 am
I don't really understand it, either, that's why I'm asking the question.
What, exactly, do you not specifically understand here?
It is not uncommon to hear the question, "what is the meaning of life?".
This is true for me also. But this in no way means that I do not understand why you human beings imagine and even believe some things that are not just empirically impossible but are also not even logically rationally possible
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
I think what people usually mean by that is, what is the purpose of our existence?
Why would you even begin to think and presume this?
Why would absolutely ANY human being ask the question, 'What is the meaning of life?', but mean some other thing?
Have you ever considered clarifying with them what they actually do mean first?
Do you do often presume that another means something completely and utterly different from the very words that they actually used?
If yes, or if you do this anytime at all, then this would explain why some of what I say and write here gets completely and utterly misinterpreted by you.
To me, what the answer to, 'What is the meaning of life?', is very different from the answer to, 'What is the purpose of your, human being, existence?' (But then, by the use of the 'our' word here you may have been meaning or referring to something else completely.)
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
When a carpenter produces something out of wood, he does it for a reason; there is a purpose behind it.
Okay, if you say so.
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
Well we have been produced, whether it be by nature, God, or whatever, and a lot of people seem to think there must be an intended purpose for us.
Do you think this as well?
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
Now, many people seem to think that if there is a God, and if what their religion tells them is true, then that explains what our purpose is.
Do any of these people tell you what 'their', 'our', and/or 'your' purpose is, exactly?
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am I can't see how it does explain it; it just kicks the can farther down the road.
you are doing it again here. you are using the 'it' word without revealing what 'it' is, exactly.
No one, not even you, can find or be provide with answers when you are being vague. If you, really, want to find answers or learn and understand more here, then you really need to be far more specific.
Again, I can explain absolutely everything here in a truly logical and rational way, which can be backed up, supported, and proved scientifically.
What the meaning of life is and what is 'our' purpose for being HERE, existing, is no different. The answers are irrefutable and provable
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
So what I don't understand is why do they even ask the question?
Have you ever considered asking 'those people'?
I found that when people are open and honest, then you can, and will, get the answers, to questions, like the one you just asked me here
Obviously, asking 'them', instead of 'me', would probably provide you will a more sufficient answer, for you.
Also, of course, you would be wondering why 'they' ask a specific question, when they mean something else, when and while 'you' are holding the presumption that 'they' are actually meaning something else. BUT, is 'your presumption' correct to begin with?
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
Age wrote:Harbal wrote:And I don't understand what difference God makes to whether we think there is any point to our existence.
Okay. But you do not even understand what the word 'God' is even referring to, exactly, either.
In my part of the world, I think people usually mean the God that is described in the Bible, but there are all sorts of conceptions of what God is.
I think you will find that there all sorts of conceptions of God all over the world.
In case I have not made it blatantly clear, previously, until you human beings start defining what 'It' is, exactly, first, then you are only wasting 'your time' questioning and discussing whether 'It' exists, or not.
As the last few thousand or so years, up to when this is being written, has proved absolutely True.
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
Age wrote:Harbal wrote:Even if after we died we went on to spend eternity up in the clouds with God, what would be the point of that?
Why would any Truly rational human being imagine that 'spending eternity in the clouds' was a rational thing to even consider or imagine?
That is also a mystery to me, but you must know that a lot of people actually do believe that.
Yes, I do, or they believe some things like that.
But that is exactly what I said, write, and used the 'Truly rational human being' words, in my clarifying question posed, and asked, to you, here.
Also, it is not a 'mystery', to you, as you presumed it was here.
To me, 'Truly rational human being' does not imagine such a thing.
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
Now do you understand?
Do 'I' understand 'what', 'now', exactly?
Again, you are being very vague, and not specific at all here.
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:42 am
If not, I won't mind if you lie about it.
If you do not mind others lying to you, then this helps in explaining what you are, still, so confused here and, still, seeking and searching for answers here.