I'd actually like to see somebody do that. People talk about it, but they never demonstrate it.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 4:51 pm If God does not exist objective morality may still have a basis other than God.
Take any precept you like. Let's say...a permission to do something we'd all concede is "good," such as, say:
- Saving a child's life.
Giving to charity.
Feeding the hungry.
Telling the truth.
- No slavery.
No murder.
No genocide.
No rape.
That's a logical error, I'm afraid. It's rather like saying, "If there's no hay in the barn, then the barn didn't exist." Morality is not the totality of God, obviously. And you can easily imagine how a "god" like that of the Islamists, the Gnostics or the Deists could exist while no objective morality existed.But as objective morality does not exist, you have laid a claim that God does not exist.
But if morality is real, then it has to be based in something. There has to be some reason or cause for the evaluative terms, some grounds to assert that they are necessary, relevant or applicable to a given case. Subjectivism has no such grounds. But Objectivism does.