Oh, I see. And we may be talking at cross purposes. My point is, if there are facts of any kind, then opinions about them are irrelevant. Iow, we can and do have our own opinions, but we can't have our own facts. For example, is physics 'subjective' in the way you say morality is?Harbal wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 3:52 pm
Even if there were moral facts, there would still be subjective moral opinions, so these things aren't mutually exclusive.
As I say, I think we all know about subjective morality, so it would be more interesting -I think- to explore how there could even be such things as objective moral truths.
So yes, to repeat: the important question is: are there moral facts - moral features of reality - so that moral assertions have factual truth-value, regardless of opinion, individual or collective? And I think that's what I've been addressing all along.
And IC's deflection onto a critique of 'moral subjectivism' testifies to the evident failure of claims about moral facts, and arguments for their existence.