godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
Age wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 11:55 pm
godelian wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 10:45 am
It is not possible to prove anything about the physical universe.
If this is what you believe is true, then so be it.
That is not merely a personal belief. It is the standard position in the epistemology of science.
Once again, here 'we' have another who uses the, 'it is the standard position', as though this somehow makes what is claimed actually irrefutably True.
you really do need to learn how to 'argue' for your position "godelian".
The earth is in the absolute center of the Universe, the Universe began, and the Universe is expanding were all, once upon a time, 'standard positions' as well, along with many, many other positions, which all turned out to be completely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect.
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
You believe that mathematics is "made up" and that it is possible to prove things about the physical universe. Your beliefs are objectively wrong.
Okay.
If this is what you want to believe is true.
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
This is the typical problem with atheists.
But why did you even begin to believe that 'I' am an "atheist"?
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
They do not believe in God, but when you look at the precise details and consequences of what they actually do believe in, it always turns out to be complete bullshit.
What do you even believe I believe in, exactly?
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
It also always degenerates into an attack on the provable work of the greatest mathematician of all times, Kurt Godel, while their own understanding of mathematics is ridiculously poor.
When have I ever attacked any so-claimed 'provable work of the so-claimed 'greatest' mathematician of all time?
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
You are not on the same level as Godel. Absolutely nobody will grant you that.
Okay, but to be of that level is not something at all I would ever want to be.
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
You see, someone with even half a brain would avoid arguing against the completeness and compactness theorems, but you happily do that anyway because you are so incredibly ignorant.
But, I am not arguing against any such things. And, if you even thought or believed I was just shows you how little you have followed here, or how ignorant you have been here.
I have just been pointing out and showing that any belief that those theorems would ever prove that God exists and/or that they would prove that there is an actual 'multiverse' is a belief existing in absolutely insanity. And, that you are living proof of this "godelian".
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
You do not even understand completeness or compactness or why it matters, but you still know everything better.
you do not comprehend and understand that there is only this One Universe, and not 'multiverses', but I do not keep reminding the readers of this as though this makes 'me' somehow better than 'you'.
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
You are utterly unable to reason at the level required and that is why you say that this level is wrong.
Are you aware that you have not really said anything at all here?
you are just saying and claiming that some maths proves God exists and that there is an 'arithematical multiverse', which, obviously, says nothing at all really.
Obviously, you have not provided any maths that proves God exists, nor have you shown any maths that shows and proves that there is an actual 'multiverse' and not this One Universe.
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
The truth is that you cannot do it while you refuse to acknowledge that. You simply refuse to accept your own limitations.
Okay, if you say so. But some are seeing you doing this exact same very thing "yourself" here "godelian".
godelian wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:07 am
That is very typical of atheists. An attack on Godel's work will fail, if only because you are not of his caliber.
But no one has to be of the so-called 'caliber' of "godel" to know that what you are trying to claim here is just the stuff of pure insanity.
you keep proving this over and over again.
Now, if you want to keep claiming that "godel's" work aligns with some claim that there is a 'multiverse' and not a 'Universe' and/or that "godel's" work will prove that God exists, then by all means keep claiming this.
But, until you actual prove what you claim, do not be too surprised if some see you as being completely deluded here.