Gang violence is not the problem

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godelian wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:57 am
Gary Childress wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:13 am So this is all because you don't want to pay alimony or taxes? We're going to reduce the entire world to Somalia for that reason?
Just like western society tries (or tried) to impose its misguided views onto me, the West routinely and wholesale does that to countries outside the West.

I seek to leverage this reality to solve both issues.

We have to crush and extinguish the need of the West to impose its views onto other people, just like in WWII the allies managed to completely eradicate the German Third Reich's racial superiority complex. As long as Germans believed that they were Ubermenschen while everybody else was supposedly an Untermensch, German people were simply intolerable. The Germans lost the war, witnessed millions of dead German bodies, ended up with a completely destroyed country, and are now finally reasonable people that we can deal with.

That is why the conflict between the West and the Russian Federation is such a fantastic opportunity to achieve exactly the same with the West, i.e. to eradicate the propensity in the West to impose its misguided views onto others. That is why I want Vladimir Putin to finally make up his mind and to resolutely attack and destroy NATO.
Gee. How would you like it if I said that someone should invade your country and crush it so that people like you will get rid of their homicidal ideations. Anyway, your post is beyond ludicrous. To give benefit of the doubt, I'll say you probably got screwed over by your ex-wife and are simply hysterically venting. Otherwise, I'd say your view is absolutely appalling.
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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:06 pm Gee. How would you like it if I said that someone should invade your country and crush it so that people like you will get rid of their homicidal ideations. Anyway, your post is beyond ludicrous. To give benefit of the doubt, I'll say you probably got screwed over by your ex-wife and are simply hysterically venting. Otherwise, I'd say your view is absolutely appalling.
The West is going to collapse and that is a good thing. It will prevent the West from imposing its misguided views onto others, both countries and individuals.

You see, there should be no such thing as a free lunch. If you want to impose your views onto others, you must prove that you are willing to risk your life and die for what you believe in.

The German Reich believed that they were Ubermenschen. I have no problem with that view because they fought their war and died for it by the millions. So, I am completely satisfied with the outcome.
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when the "west" collapses, the nukes will fly

-Imp
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Impenitent wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:56 pm when the "west" collapses, the nukes will fly

-Imp
Maybe. Who knows? Who even cares? No matter what happens, the West will stop trying to impose its misguided views onto others. Problem solved.
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godelian wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:31 pm
Impenitent wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:56 pm when the "west" collapses, the nukes will fly

-Imp
Maybe. Who knows? Who even cares? No matter what happens, the West will stop trying to impose its misguided views onto others. Problem solved.
You don't care if there is a nuclear war? That seems like a reckless view of the world? Do you care if you get hit by a truck walking accross the street tomorrow?
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"Otherwise, I'd say your view is absolutely appalling."

Rather what's appalling is that nazism, for instance, is a legitimate philosophy and can be practiced by people. This is the irony; in a godless material universe where intelligent animals evolve and compete and where group identities and moralities exist among similar people who band together against other groups with conflicting philosophies, what the nazis 'did' was perfectly 'philosophically' legal. That's the hard irony. U CAN have the attitude and world view of a nazi - as scientifically or factually erroneous that it may be - and there would be nothing to stop u but other 'philosophies'.

Nazism is darwinism on steroids so it's got a lot of biology and evolutionary psychology to back it up. No god, no objective morality, unequal species struggle for survival against each other on erf. Strong individuals and groups survive and flourish.

Can't argue much against fax.

I used to be a fascist tho so i had some sympathy for the nazis sans all the jewish issues they had. I always said they shoulda completely left the jews alone and continued conquering the world, no prob. The jews woulda just done what they've always done; assimilate. But all this nonsense about Jewish wretchedness and conspiracy is just overinflated hot-air.

Yeah that was really my only beef with the nazis. Them fuckin with the jews. I even thought the national-socialist thing they made up was kinda kewl even tho it wasn't marxist.
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"You don't care if there is a nuclear war?"

We are entering the era of low yield nuclear weapon use, so yes. There will be nuclear wars but little ones only. No mondo world war like in War Games. Instead, a quick and decisive last resort. Putin gets tired of the bullshit four years later and finally drops a tiny nuke on some city in Ukraine, hoping to force a surrender.

Either legit militaries or paramilitary groups obtaining the uranium or whatever illegally and making dirty bombs with it, will use them.

So for example a country in the middle east drops a low yield on a city and pulverizes an eighth of it. That country then responds with the same, if capable, etc. But whole cities like Hiroshima wouldn't ever be wiped out. There will be an agreement between legit low yield users that if your bombs have over a certain destructive force, u are penalized by whatever (sanctions, ostracization from the international committee for better nuclear weapon use, or ICFBNWU).

So only the illegal dirty bombs will be a potential problem... but by then there will be incredible oversight and restriction on uranium processing and distribution in the world. If u are a terrorist group lookin to make a big bomb, u got a better chance at finding jimmy hoffa than enough uranium to make one.
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promethean75 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:10 pm "You don't care if there is a nuclear war?"

We are entering the era of low yield nuclear weapon use, so yes. There will be nuclear wars but little ones only. No mondo world war like in War Games. Instead, a quick and decisive last resort. Putin gets tired of the bullshit four years later and finally drops a tiny nuke on some city in Ukraine, hoping to force a surrender.

Either legit militaries or paramilitary groups obtaining the uranium or whatever illegally and making dirty bombs with it, will use them.

So for example a country in the middle east drops a low yield on a city and pulverizes an eighth of it. That country then responds with the same, if capable, etc. But whole cities like Hiroshima wouldn't ever be wiped out. There will be an agreement between legit low yield users that if your bombs have over a certain destructive force, u are penalized by whatever (sanctions, ostracization from the international committee for better nuclear weapon use, or ICFBNWU).

So only the illegal dirty bombs will be a potential problem... but by then there will be incredible oversight and restriction on uranium processing and distribution in the world. If u are a terrorist group lookin to make a big bomb, u got a better chance at finding jimmy hoffa than enough uranium to make one.
I wish ALL nations would ratify the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, including the United States. And ALL nations ought to stop trying to destroy each other. If that can ever be realized, it would/will be a great day indeed.
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Well I'm sorry all this is hegelian and you're tryna tamper with the historical dialectic by stopping the rational conclusion to global capitalism which is total annihilation and low yield nuclear wars meanwhile.
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promethean75 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:49 pm Well I'm sorry all this is hegelian and you're tryna tamper with the historical dialectic by stopping the rational conclusion to global capitalism which is total annihilation and low yield nuclear wars meanwhile.
Hegelianism, the German version of "Manifest Destiny"...
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