seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:13 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:43 am
seeds wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:49 pm
I'm not mixing anything with anything, you're the one who repeatedly stated that there are
"many minds" while at the same time insisting that there is only
"one mind."
I explained in my former post that I used to believe that there are many minds. I however faced a problem with this picture since
if each person has several minds...
Yes, I remember you making that argument, and of course there was a problem with it, and that's because the notion of each person having
"several minds" is nonsense!
One person = One mind, period!
I wonder how long it will take this one to recognize and see the 'problem' and 'issue' here with this 'nonsense'?
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:13 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:43 am
...and if he moves the mind changes its location and therefore changes...
So what?
If a person learns something new, or creates a completely new theory of reality, or an abstract artist imagines and paints something never envisioned before, their minds have undergone
change,
Indeed, that's what minds do, they forever learn, evolve, expand, and thus,
change.
But, obviously not if you people have or own minds, and are also holding onto a 'belief', then, obviously, those have or owned 'minds' could not possibly change, in regards to what is being believed to be true.
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:13 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:43 am
Mind however changeless therefore there must be one omnipresent mind that takes care of changes.
More nonsense, bahman.
Again, a person's mind is forever evolving, growing,
and changing.
Well, if you had a mind "seeds", then you are obviously proving this claim of yours here not true. As 'your mind' is not even budging, let alone changing, at all here.
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:13 pm
Or, perhaps it would be more accurate to say that the
"agent" or owner of a mind is forever evolving, growing, and changing,
But, if the so-called 'owner' of 'a mind' holds onto 'a belief' rigidly, then how, exactly, is that one, forever, evolving, growing, and changing, exactly?
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:13 pm
Whereas, again, the
"mind" is simply a word we use to refer to the
living "spatial arena" (or closed "bubble") in which all of the growing, evolving, and changing takes place.
So, to this one here now, 'a mind' is 'owned' by 'some agent', who is actually growing, evolving, and changing within 'a mind'.
Maybe this one really cannot see the, very obvious, contradiction here, but if this one could, explaining that 'one mind' is 'owned' by 'another agent' and not by you 'human agents' is not going to help clear absolutely anything up here.
But, if you think or believe that you can "seeds", then by all means please go and do it.
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:13 pm
For example, this...
...can be thought of as being a rudimentary visualization of God's mind (of which there is only one).
So, 'now' you are also saying that there is 'only one' as well, right?
Also, and by the way, 'that' could be thought of as many, many other things as well. And, there could be many, upon many, other was of thinking and/or visualizing what some call 'God's mind', as well, also.
Now, you have been questioned and challenged over this one and only 'visualization', by you only, and informed of how and why 'that' could not be True, Right, Accurate, nor Correct, too.
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:13 pm
Indeed, in the quest of trying to figure out what those galaxy-shaped structures are made of, humans have discovered that the entire contents of that bubble seems to be created from an infinitely malleable (informationally-based) substance that is capable of being formed into absolutely anything
"imaginable" (just like the substance from which our own thoughts and dreams are created).
1. What does 'infinitely malleable (informationally-based) substance' actually look like?
2. What is that, supposed, substance made up of, exactly?
3, Why only the contents of some made up by you 'bubble'?
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:13 pm
Again, bahman, the truth of reality (the truth behind this grand illusion) is almost becoming too obvious.
(Continued in next post)
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From, well my perspective anyway, what you call a 'grand illusion' appears to be very much of a 'grand delusion', and a very grand one at that.
Although there is some actually irrefutable Truth in what you say and claim here, just like there is some actually irrefutable Truth in what all those who have had so-called 'God-experiences' here, in this forum, the way you and them go about explaining 'those experiences' is only put you and others further away from who and what God is, exactly.