So, this one, before it even actually finds out for certain what another's so-called 'own private version of the Absolute Truth' is, exactly, has already concluded and decided that none of them could know 'the Absolute Truth' and so it will spend its time trying to inform 'the other' of what the actual Absolute Truth is, exactly. Which, obviously, and hypocritically, is its 'own private version of the Absolute Truth'.Atla wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:59 amHi, this forum is a bit different, while there is some name calling going on here as well, that part is manageable, that's not the main issue. (There is no active moderation whatsoever btw.)friendofyours wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:26 am I agree. I was beginning to think I was the only one who felt like this.
I am quite new to philosophy; I actually 'found' it by mistake, and I remember thinking, "How on earth did I not know about this? I have been thinking like this all my life. Now I know what it is called." To me, anyone can be a philosopher. I cannot jump into everyone's head an know for sure, but I suspect we all are to some extent. I think it is a very human and natural thing.
I first found out about it because I went back to university to follow my love of creative writing. However, since I was an international student, they told me that for the first semester they would choose my courses for me. One of those courses was philosophy, and I loved it so much. I used to come out of each lecture or seminar almost skipping with energy and excitement lol But I honestly never remember any animosity in the seminars, no trying to win an argument or belittling others. We just talked about all the weird and wonderful ideas that came to us, we laughed a lot and we became friends.
I had to return to the UK early for family reasons, but I missed philosophy so much, so I naturally sought out a philosophy forum (not initially this one) But I was horrified. Some of the people were so rude and disrespectful and down right nasty. Why? I don't understand at all. What does anyone gain from that? Certainly not wisdom. And people telling others that they were talking absolute rubbish and that they were not philosophers. Who are they to stand in judgement over others? I mean, perhaps if they could demonstrate that they were the perfect philosopher (their words already indicated quite the opposite) then they may have some grounds to judge. I say 'may'. They showed total arrogance and disregard for other people's views and feelings, with no respect for fellow human beings. Sorry for venting, but it makes me so upset. And the worst thing was that I was waiting for someone to pull them up for their post. I mean, I thought, 'maybe there is something wrong with them. They might have issues, or be somehow vulnerable. Or maybe they are a troll." I just couldn't figure it out. Why was nobody saying something about it. Then someone else piped up and agreed with the person, and that was it. I feel kind of bad, as I do not like confrontations, but I felt that I had to say something. To me, it was just so wrong how they were treating people.
So anyway, this is a different forum, and I am hoping so much that people will be more respectful, kinder and open minded. Of course, we are not going to all agree on everything, but to me, part of philosophy is hearing others views and being able to look at things from all angles so as to work out what we believe and get as clear and honest picture of things as we can. We may not all agree, but everyone has a right to their opinions, and this should be mutually respected... in my view.
The main issue is that at least half the forum is preaching their own private versions of the Absolute Truth, and no logical or illogical argument can make them rethink anything ever.
But, some people really just cannot see what Absolutely is Truly happening and occurring here.
But 'you' have previously claimed that 'I' am Absolutely Truly 'schizophrenic', yet here are now saying that 'I' only 'seem' to be.
And Absolutely Truly rare to "atla", especially.
"atla" spends more time diagnosing 'conditions' of others, and accusing others of things, than it does actually having 'logically reasoned debates'.
Which, by the way, 'debates' and 'debating', well to me anyway, has absolutely nothing whatsoever at all, to do with 'phil-o-sophy', itself.
To me, having a 'love-of-wisdom' involves always 'wanting to keep learning' more and anew, which involves having a 'love-of-learning', whereas 'debating' is the exact opposite thing. That is; just picking 'a side', and fighting, or 'arguing', for that 'one-side' only. Which obviously has nothing at all to do with wisdom, learning, nor 'philosophy', itself.
Like who, exactly?
And, would you care to list them in the order as you see them from the better thinkers, to the less better ones?
This could be very interesting, and which might spark an actual 'philosophical discussion' here.
Will you provide any examples of?
Have you presented any "yourself" for example "atla"?