Well, check it out. You'll find that what I'm saying is true.Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:59 amI don't think the hypothesis can be dismissed as easily as you suggest,Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:30 amThere is no other, so far as we know, so far as science knows, and so far as anybody CAN know. Everything else is merely speculative. That's what most people don't understand about the "alternate universes hypothesis": that it's nothing but a hypothesis, with not one scratch of evidence for it.
However, if you aren't invested in that idea enough to know, why raise it at all?
But why are there things, and why are there "laws"? By all expectations, there ought to neither -- just random atoms, drifting in a vacuum. What made these things organize at all? That's what the real explanation has to explain.We know there is matter, and we know there are laws that govern how it behaves, so given that, how can something not happen?IC wrote:You can't use order to explain order. "Laws" mean that things have already been ordered. You've now assumed what you're trying to prove...not proved it.Harbal wrote:As long as there is matter, and laws that govern it, something is going to happen,
It's probably designed to. But it's still a nonsense hypothesis, so if it represents any threat to that, it's certainly minimal. The only problem with it is that some people who are desperate to escape the obvious actually cling to the alternate universe hypothesis, as if it were "science."A mere hypothesis that obviously has unwelcome implications,IC wrote:It's a mere hypothesis. A totally unfounded guess or mental construct. No evidence for it exists, or, by definition, ever could exist.Harbal wrote:But, apparently, it is considered theoretically possible by mainstream science,
It's not my "bee." I didn't raise it. But I'm content to dispatch it, and to strike it, if you wish.Okay, let all mention of the alternate-universes hypothesis be stricken from the record. I have nothing to gain by causing you to suffer that particular bee in your bonnet.