Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:29 am
YES OBVIOUSLY. In the sense that 'you' are NOT CURIOUS in LEARNING MORE or ANEW ABOUT the 'thoughts' WITHIN 'this body'.
Yes, as you say, obviously.
'you', however, and OBVIOUSLY, might well be VERY INTERESTED IN JUDGING, negatively or not, and/or VERY INTERESTED IN PRESUMING and/or BELIEVING 'you' KNOW MORE ABOUT 'the thoughts' WITHIN 'this body', and/or VERY, VERY INTERESTED in 'TRYING TO' RIDICULE or HUMILIATE 'the thoughts' WITHIN 'this body' IN FRONT OF, or not, "others".
I doubt that there's much interest in our exchange. I could be wrong, of course but I certainly don't expect much interest. I do know a number of people have thought I was feeding a troll or wasting my time.
If you are thinking there is much interest in our exchange and this is part of the reason you sometimes deny the obvious, I think this is a mistake built on another mistake.
ONCE AGAIN 'you' have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY MISSED what HAS HAPPENED and OCCURRED and IS HAPPENING and OCCURRING here.
That is; 'you' WANT TO CLAIM here that 'you' KNOW MORE ABOUT the thoughts WITHIN 'this body', when, OBVIOUSLY, 'you' DO NOT.
What 'you' just SAID and WROTE here is just ANOTHER ATTEMPT AT 'TRYING TO' DEFLECT AWAY FROM the Fact I just ONCE AGAIN HIGHLIGHTED and POINTED OUT.
But, as can be CLEARLY SEEN, 'this' IS 'your HABIT'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:42 am
Really poor, fallacious logic, Ken.
But I NEVER SAID, nor even THOUGHT, the CONCLUSION that 'you' HAVe OBVIOUSLY VERY QUICKLY JUMPED TO here, and VERY Wrongly I will add.
I quoted your conclusion.
BUT 'you' DID NOT quote MY conclusion. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED IRREFUTABLY True. 'you' just came up with 'your' OWN CONCLUSION, based solely upon 'your' OWN Assumption/s, which were based solely upon 'your' OWN Past Experiences.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
But I obviously can't stop you from playing mind games.
1. 'you' do NOT YET even KNOW what 'mind games' ARE.
2. CLAIMING "another" has CONCLUDED some 'thing', which 'they' HAVE NOT, EXACTLY like 'you' ARE DOING here now IS what some call A 'mind game'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
You drew a conclusion about my lack of curiosity in general from how I reacted to you.
False AND Wrong, AGAIN.
'you', here, ARE just ONCE AGAIN PROVING my CLAIM True AND Right, in regards to you PRESUMING I have CONCLUDED 'things' when I HAVE NOT.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
The conclusion is right there, quoted twice in other posts. You had no grounds for this belief of yours, one of many beliefs you have and deny you have.
ONCE AGAIN, the so-called 'conclusion' IS OF 'your' OWN MAKING, ALONE.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
NEVER an ACKNOWLEDGMENT nor ACCEPTANCE of 'its' OWN Falsehoods, Wrongness, Inaccuracies, NOR Incorrectness in 'its' WRITINGS.
False, I have admitted mistakes, here and in other forums with some regularity for years.
What can NOW be CLEARLY SEEN here is that 'this one' has FOOLED 'itself' SO MUCH and SO OFTEN that 'it' ACTUALLY now BELIEVES 'its' OWN MADE UP Falsehoods AND Untruths. So, 'it' is now 'TRYING TO' DECEIVE and FOOL the "readers" here AS WELL.
If 'we' are LOOK BACK on what I ACTUALLY SAID and WROTE, and which 'this one' HAS LEFT OUT, on purpose, or unintentionally because 'it' IS FOOLING and DECEIVING 'itself' SO MUCH, then 'we' CAN CLEARLY SEE WHAT 'the words', 'NEVER an ACKNOWLEDGMENT nor ACCEPTANCE of 'its' OWN Falsehoods, Wrongness, Inaccuracies, NOR Incorrectness in 'its' WRITINGS', was ACTUALLY BEING REFERRED TO, EXACTLY.
See HOW when 'this one' IS SHOWN TO BE Wrong, then 'it' RESORTS TO 'trying to' ATTACK or HUMILIATE 'the one' who JUST POINTED OUT the Wrongness, the INCONSISTENCY, or the CONTRADICTION.
Which IS EXACTLY what I WAS REFERRING TO, EXACTLY.
The word 'NEVER', as can be CLEARLY SEEN, was CLEARLY IN REFERENCE TO 'this sentence' here.
'your' ATTEMPT to TRICK 'the readers' by LEAVING OUT the prior sentence, which, CLEARLY, the sentence starting with 'NEVER' was IN REFERENCE TO, will NOT WORK on those who can see THROUGH 'your' DECEPTION here "iwannaplato". BUT, 'we' do NOT BLAME 'you' FOR THIS ATTEMPT AT DECEPTION BECAUSE 'you' HAVE TRICKED, FOOLED, and DECEIVED "your" OWN 'self' here SO MUCH, which 'you' now OBVIOUSLY can NOT YET SEE and RECOGNIZE.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
But I suppose you'll tell me that you really didn't say that I never do this.
ONCE AGAIN, here 'we' can CLEARLY SEE how 'your' OWN MADE UP past or previous False ASSUMPTIONS and/or CONCLUSIONS, which 'you' are now currently BELIEVING are true IS LEADING 'you' to MAKE UP MORE PRESUMPTIONS. Which ARE, by the way, False AND Wrong AS WELL.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
You're free obviously to pretend you didn't say things. Again a generalization not based in facts. Another belief you have while denying you have beliefs (except one you acknowledge you have). Gaslighting with narcissistic qualities.
Here 'we' can VERY CLEARLY SEE how from just one False or Wrong previous PRESUMPTION, CONCLUSION, and/or BELIEF one can be LED SO MUCH FURTHER ASTRAY.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
If you notice that your reactions to my writing are much more like someone named Ken, than they are like a transcendent entity,
And, HOW does a so-called and labeled 'transcendent entity' REACT, EXACTLY?
Also, HOW are 'you' here PERCEIVING 'my reactions', to 'your writings', EXACTLY? And, let us NOT FORGET that OBVIOUSLY 'your perceptions' here could be ABSOLUTELY False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. Or, do 'you' BELIEVE otherwise?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
I suggest you take seriously my and other people's criticism's of your position.
I suggest 'you' AND "others" LEARN TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND what I HAVE INFORMED 'you' AND "others" OF here, ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS ALREADY. WHICH IS; 'you', posters, here are NOT necessarily WHO I WANT TO COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH.
THAT IS; I have ALREADY LEARNED that there is NO USE in even TRYING TO communicate with people ABOUT some 'things' WHILST 'they' ARE HOLDING ONTO and/or MAINTAINING A BELIEF, which 'you', "iwannaplato", and "other posters", here have ALREADY PROVED ABSOLUTELY and IRREFUTABLY True, FOR "others" TO LOOK AT, and SEE.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
This is not something that is removable by posturing in words on the screen. You can write back with more of the same, but it won't change what is going on inside you.
AND, 'you', "iwannaplato", can OBVIOUSLY write back with more of the same, but that will NOT change what is going on inside 'you'. As 'you' have ALREADY PROVEN True.
A REASON WHY 'you' ARE NOT LEARNING MORE nor ANEW IS BECAUSE 'you' continually SAY and WRITE the SAME 'things'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
Perhaps you will be able to connect this with the incredible lack of success in communicating with the people of this time, at least here on PN.
JUST LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES 'this one' here HAS BEEN CONTINUOUSLY TOLD that I AM NOT necessarily here to be UNDERSTOOD BY 'the people', in the days when this being written, BUT which 'this one' STILL HAS NOT YET COMPREHENDED and UNDERSTOOD THIS Fact.
The VERY 'thing' I HAVE BEEN and AM STILL POINTING OUT, SHOWING, and REVEALING TO 'you readers' ABOUT EXACTLY HOW 'people' WERE, BACK THEN, when this WAS being written, 'this one' CONTINUALLY PROVES 'me' TO BE ABSOLUTELY Right AND Correct ABOUT.
I WILL SAY 'this' ONCE AGAIN, and let 'us' SEE if 'this one' IS EVER ABLE TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND 'this Fact'. From the outset here, in this forum, I have NEVER INTENDED FOR MY WORDS and WRITINGS here to be COMMUNICATED TO nor TO BE COMPREHENDED and UNDERSTOOD BY 'the people', in the times NOR days of these writings.
So, FOR 'the readers' for WHO MY WRITINGS ARE ACTUALLY INTENDED, let 'us' NOW SEE IF 'this one' EVER GETS TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND 'this'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
It seems we are at the end of this exchange at least from my side.
'you' have SAID 'this' BEFORE.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
Once you start pretending you didn't say things you did - a form of running away and worse - I can't learn anything anymore from dealing with a person with this much lack of integrity and I re-read the exchange just to make sure.
And, what 'we' can CLEARLY SEE here IS 'this one' IS DOING 'it' ONCE AGAIN. That is; 'it' PRESUMES or PRESUPPOSES some 'thing, and CONCLUDES that 'its' OWN MADE UP ASSUMPTION/SUPPOSITION IS TRUE, and then CARRIES ON FROM 'there'.
For example, THIS TIME 'this one' SAID and WROTE:
But I suppose you'll tell me that you really didn't say that I never do this.
AND THEN 'it' ENDS UP BELIEVING 'its' OWN MADE UP SUPPOSITION IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
As, ONCE AGAIN, can be CLEARLY SEEN here.
There IS ABSOLUTELY NO WONDER WHY 'this one' ENDS UP SO LOST and SO CONFUSED, SO MUCH, and SO OFTEN here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
I have learned from interacting with you both how to deal with patterns I meet in real life in others, and then some patterns of thought in my own mind that try to tie me up in an internal bureaucracy of questions and
unnecessary self-doubt.
Okay, and 'what', EXACTLY, have 'you' SUPPOSEDLY LEARNED?
From 'my perspective', from the way 'you' SPEAK and WRITE here, 'you' do NOT seem to have LEARNED REALLY MUCH AT ALL here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
For this, I am very, very glad for the exchange.
Okay.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
And, in fact, I was very curious to see where our interaction would go. I was also curious to see if and what I would learn from the interaction. I was surprised by one of the things I learned. Very surprised and pleased. The latter insight earlier in this paragraph.
Okay, but as 'we' can CLEARLY SEE 'your' HABIT OF ONLY ALLUDING TO some 'thing', which MAY or MAY NOT even 'be there', and NOT ACTUALLY being EXPLICIT, PERSISTS. And, if 'you' BELIEVE that 'this habit' HELPS 'you', then 'this' IS ALL WELL and GOOD, FOR 'you', right?
OBVIOUSLY, ALLUDING TO some 'thing', but NOT ACTUALLY CLARIFYING NOR ELABORATING ON, especially when EXPLICITLY ASKED FOR, IS A FORM OF LYING and/or DECEIVING and DECEPTION. But, to SOME people 'they' DO 'this' SO HABITUALLY that 'they' do NOT even SEE or RECOGNIZE just HOW MUCH and/or HOW OFTEN 'they' ATTEMPT TO FOOL and DECEIVE "others". But 'this' is some times BECAUSE 'they' do NOT even SEE nor RECOGNIZE just HOW MUCH or HOW OFTEN "they' HAVE DECEIVED and FOOLED 'their" OWN 'selves', or just HOW MUCH and HOW OFTEN 'they' ARE CONTINUALLY DOING 'this', OUT OF HABIT.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
You have repeatedly, throughout this interaction, earlier interactions and interactions with others expressed, without qualification, beliefs about myself and others and people in general, at the time of this writing.
And, as I CONTINUALLY POINT OUT and SAY, if 'this' IS what 'you' BELIEVE IS TRUE, then TO 'you' 'this' IS what IS ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY TRUE, correct?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
But you don't notice yourself doing what you chastise others for doing, nor do you admit you even have beliefs.
ONCE MORE, and BACK TO the START OF 'this thread', 'you', "iwannaplato", ACTUALLY, and STILL, ONCE AGAIN, BELIEVE that 'you' KNOW MORE ABOUT 'the thoughts' WITHIN 'this head' than 'I' DO.
Which IS Truly FUNNY and HUMOROUS for 'us' TO WATCH, and OBSERVE, CONTINUALLY PLAY OUT here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:18 am
I can only hope you become curious about why your interactions are not working here at PN and why you allow yourself to do things, you criticize in others, and further why you deny things that are in print on screen and can be accessed easily by yourself and others. Age is not transcendent.
You take care, Ken.
ALL HOPE of 'you' having ALREADY LEARNED and UNDERSTOOD that 'I' have NEVER EVER, even ONCE, WANTED TO have MY INTERACTIONS UNDERSTOOD, or WORKED OUT, BY 'you', posters, here, even though I HAVE CLEARLY EXPRESSED 'this' ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS and IN NUMEROUS WAYS HAS GONE.
BUT, THEN AGAIN, TO BE ABLE TO PROVE IRREFUTABLY True AND Right just HOW the Mind and the brain WORK, EXACTLY, I NEEDED 'you', posters, here to NOT BE ABLE TO READ and COMPREHEND A LOT of what I have VERY CLEARLY SAID and WRITTEN here IN CLEAR PRINTED WORDS, and even when I have even HIGHLIGHTED SOME words IN capital letters.
I WILL SAY 'this' ONCE AGAIN:
I AM here TO LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH 'you', human beings, which OBVIOUSLY does NOT, necessarily, INCLUDE 'you', adult posters, here, IN THE DAYS WHEN THIS IS BEING WRITTEN.
ONCE AGAIN, and 'this' IS BECAUSE 'I' AM USING 'you' TO ACHIEVE and CREATE 'the goal', which I HAVE SET, IN PLACE here.