Spinoza & Other Determinists

[Philosophy Now]

Myint Zan compares different ways of denying free will.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/159/Spinoza_and_Other_Determinists

[Gary Childress]

At this moment, I'm thinking the debate concerning free will vs. determinism will never be resolved. However, I can't guarantee that I will hold this view forever.

[attofishpi]

At this moment, I'm thinking the debate concerning free will vs. determinism will never be resolved. However, I can't guarantee that I will hold this view forever.

Well, the atheist consensus is that no views are held forever. Although the most optimistic ones, in the sense of humanity not being destroyed, would agree that humanities knowledge should continue long into the future, forever growing with more advanced engineering of selfie-sticks.

[Flannel Jesus]

At this moment, I'm thinking the debate concerning free will vs. determinism will never be resolved. However, I can't guarantee that I will hold this view forever.

Well, the atheist consensus is that no views are held forever. Although the most optimistic ones, in the sense of humanity not being destroyed, would agree that humanities knowledge should continue long into the future, forever growing with more advanced engineering of selfie-sticks.

So eventually we'll all be in agreement then! Death, the great unifier.

[attofishpi]

At this moment, I'm thinking the debate concerning free will vs. determinism will never be resolved. However, I can't guarantee that I will hold this view forever.

Well, the atheist consensus is that no views are held forever. Although the most optimistic ones, in the sense of humanity not being destroyed, would agree that humanities knowledge should continue long into the future, forever growing with more advanced engineering of selfie-sticks.

So eventually we'll all be in agreement then! Death, the great unifier.

..but think of all the lovely photographs of the beautiful people smiling and stored forever upon the event horizon where information is never lost.

[nemos]

Freedom is always a choice among available options, so it is very limited.
And every stick has two ends. I don't even know why, so many people like to stick to the ends of sticks and argue that his end is better than the other end. After all, both ends of the stick are important.

[Sculptor]

At this moment, I'm thinking the debate concerning free will vs. determinism will never be resolved. However, I can't guarantee that I will hold this view forever.

Yes, you are completely determined to hold that view.

[Impenitent]

it has been determined that severed branches without excess mucilage are neither selfie or sticky...

-Imp

[Gary Childress]

At this moment, I'm thinking the debate concerning free will vs. determinism will never be resolved. However, I can't guarantee that I will hold this view forever.

Yes, you are completely determined to hold that view.

We'll have to see what fate has in store for me. Will I ever be able to change my mind? That's the big question.

[Sculptor]

At this moment, I'm thinking the debate concerning free will vs. determinism will never be resolved. However, I can't guarantee that I will hold this view forever.

Yes, you are completely determined to hold that view.

We'll have to see what fate has in store for me. Will I ever be able to change my mind? That's the big question.

Of course. Minds change all the time. It is caused by learning.

[Sculptor]

Freedom is always a choice among available options, so it is very limited.
And every stick has two ends. I don't even know why, so many people like to stick to the ends of sticks and argue that his end is better than the other end. After all, both ends of the stick are important.

I would say that the shit-end of the stick is to be avoided.

[nemos]

... I would say that the shit-end of the stick is to be avoided.

And another argument will be launched about what should be considered as shit.
And that's how life will go in arguments about shit...
Without fertilizer in the spring, there will be no benefit in the fall.

[Sculptor]

... I would say that the shit-end of the stick is to be avoided.

And another argument will be launched about what should be considered as shit.
And that's how life will go in arguments about shit...
Without fertilizer in the spring, there will be no benefit in the fall.

Sadly we do not make enough use of this benefit as animal husbadry is under attack from those from the planet Vegan.
But whilst I agree that shit is good for the soil; what is good for the soil does not make a great hand lotion.