Not if the OP summarizes what they find to be the germain issues and poses questions thusly (like everyone else does who relays personal anecdotes, etc).
Hence my query.
Well, part of the beauty of philosophy is that (like opinions) everyone's got one. Of course, regardless of the source of one's philosophy (academia, the Classics or merely based on one's life experience) everyone participating should be able to defend their's using logic and/or examples, preferably from Real Life.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:33 amMay I ask where exactly do you get all you're (sic) personal debatable philosophical ideas from?
I'm assuming you learn what you know by reading, watching and gleaning from others ? or do you just simply make-up everything you think you know about philosophy, and that only you're (sic) ideas are original?
Yes and of course, Jordan Peterson and Matt D have their opinions too. So?LuckyR wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:57 pm Well, part of the beauty of philosophy is that (like opinions) everyone's got one. Of course, regardless of the source of one's philosophy (academia, the Classics or merely based on one's life experience) everyone participating should be able to defend their's using logic and/or examples, preferably from Real Life.
Same place as yours I guess.As to my sources of my belief system, they come from my experiences dealing with others, my own thoughts and external sources I come across. You?
Well sure, why not- I mean everyone’s opinion must come from the same place, namely from their own perspective. So?I have no illusions that my perspective is unique or that if it was unique that that would mean anything. In fact if you think about it, if one happened to possess a "superior" viewpoint, wouldn't it be logical that numerous others would come to that conclusion and also adopt it?
I did not listen to the whole of the above video but did download the Script to get a quick glance of the debated points.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:30 pm The Greatest God Debate In History | Jordan Peterson vs Matt Dillahunty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nQUg4QeI_Y
This was an extremely interesting and fascinating debate. Just wanted to share it here.
Duration: 1hour : 40 mins
Well thanks for your interest at least, that's the purpose of me posting these videos, it's so great debates can be witnessed in realtime at the click of a mouse, between articulate and impeccable speakers in my opinion. I like to think of this forum as a newspaper, for people to read, if there is any interest or enthusiasm to do so of course, but that's entirely up to the one who is curious enough to enter the thread topic in the first place.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:22 am
I did not listen to the whole of the above video but did download the Script to get a quick glance of the debated points.
So do I.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:22 amThus I agree with Dillahunty and Harris's views that God does not exist as a real being.
Thanks for your efforts to further bring forth to our attention these fascinating debates about the possibility of God's existence or none existence.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:22 amHere are the summing up views in the JP vs Harris debate;
taken from the Script, so not well presented.
I don't know whether they know what God is.
Okay.
So, does a so-called 'concept known', TO 'you', EXIST, or NOT?
BUT WHO and/or WHAT IS 'this' 'I', EXACTLY, which 'you', "dontaskme", talk ABOUT and refer TO, here?
ALL of these QUESTIONS, CAN BE, and ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN ALREADY, ANSWERED, and IN AN IRREFUTABLE WAY I will add here.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:54 pm God is known to be the knower of this knowing. Although it is not clear where or what or why or who is this knower of this knowing without making that knower another concept known. There are plenty of theories, and ideas, but what is a theory, and what is an idea? except more concepts known, in this conception.
Where is the exact location of a knower? can it be pointed to, does it have an image, does it have an age, where was it born, how long has it lived, where does it live? is it alive or dead, is it both alive and dead?
And, as I have been CONTINUALLY POINTING OUT, and SHOWING, 'this' IS BECAUSE 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, WERE STILL VERY LOST and CONFUSED individuals.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:54 pm All these questions are still being debated and waiting to be settled upon by humanity, the God discussions are still happening now today as we speak, as though we have absolutely no idea what exactly we are referring to when it comes to the knower of knowing.
YES, VERY, VERY True.
To me, 'Knowing' implies there is a knower.
And that confusion and lostness appearing throughout this forum would be exactly what's appearing as it happens.Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:50 pmAnd, as I have been CONTINUALLY POINTING OUT, and SHOWING, 'this' IS BECAUSE 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, WERE STILL VERY LOST and CONFUSED individuals.
As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED ABSOLUTELY True throughout this forum.
THEN I SUGGEST THAT 'you' do NOT USE the letter and WORD 'I' TO REFER TO "your" OWN VERY LITTLE and INSIGNIFICANT 'self' here.
So, what MAKES 'you' think or BELIEVE that 'you' can be ASSOCIATED WITH and/or SPEAK FOR 'I'. AFTER ALL there IS ONLY thee One and ONLY 'I', and if 'you' think or BELIEVE that 'you' ARE 'It', then 'you' ARE, SADLY, VERY, VERY MISTAKEN "dontaskme'.
'you' may well NOT. But, 'I' CERTAINLY DO, and 'I', ALSO, KNOW IN 'a way', which NONE of 'you' could REFUTE.
'you' MEANT TO SAY and WRITE, 'All 'i' know is 'it' IS happening'.
ABSOLUTELY False AND Wrong AGAIN. FOR two reasons:
To 'you', does 'Knowing', REALLY, ONLY JUST 'imply' there is a 'knower'?
THIS IS BECAUSE, as 'I' have INFORMED 'you' NUMEROUS TIMES ALREADY, that the 'knower' AND thee 'Knower' ARE BOTH INVISIBLE 'things'. Therefore, and OBVIOUSLY, 'you', "dontaskme", could NOT KNOW what 'they' LOOK LIKE, NOR could NOT even be ABLE POINT TO 'them', with the physical finger OF 'that body'. HOWEVER, 'they' can be DESCRIBED, or ILLUSTRATE, THROUGH and BY spoken or written words, which as some would say, POINTS DIRECTLY TO 'who' AND 'what' the 'knower' AND thee 'Knower' ARE, EXACTLY?
AND TO BE SO CLOSED and BLIND to think that ABSOLUTELY EVERY 'thing' IN the Universe is visible with the human eyes, made up of 'matter', and/or is ABLE TO BE HELD in the human hand, like physical objects can IS BEYOND ABSOLUTE ABSURDITY.
BECAUSE 'it' does NOT and WILL NEVER TAKE THE physical 'form', like a (physical) object.
YES, and which IS WORKING PERFECTLY as 'this' HAS FITTED IN PERFECTLY WITH MY GOAL, which IS BE-COMING REALITY, HERE-NOW.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:44 amAnd that confusion and lostness appearing throughout this forum would be exactly what's appearing as it happens.Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:50 pmAnd, as I have been CONTINUALLY POINTING OUT, and SHOWING, 'this' IS BECAUSE 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, WERE STILL VERY LOST and CONFUSED individuals.
As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED ABSOLUTELY True throughout this forum.
YES, CONFUSION and LOSTNESS CAN DIMINISH, OBVIOUSLY, and BE REMOVED, COMPLETELY, and IS/WAS DONE, by the way.
What 'you', people, BACK THEN, Wrongly REFERRED TO AS 'time travel'
MAYBE Right AND Correct, BUT MAYBE NOT. BUT 'this' IS COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC here.
I know the concept I ... but I have never seen an I except as a letter in the alphabet. I do not know what or who I am and so I use this letter I as a reference to my not-knowing self, as a known self in this conception that is happening in the form of letters of the alphabet.
Ok, I suppose I could use the other I then, the little i ... i can do that, i can be little i suppose, not that it matters, because it's all just letters strung together to make sentences and words that appear to tell a story, at the end of the day. A story that just happens to be happening and appearing out of silence and mystery and imagination and ???? I've just run out of words.....Age wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:14 amSo, what MAKES 'you' think or BELIEVE that 'you' can be ASSOCIATED WITH and/or SPEAK FOR 'I'. AFTER ALL there IS ONLY thee One and ONLY 'I', and if 'you' think or BELIEVE that 'you' ARE 'It', then 'you' ARE, SADLY, VERY, VERY MISTAKEN "dontaskme'.
The ONLY 'one' that 'you' can REALLY SPEAK FOR IS 'you', the LITTLE and conceptually separated individual 'i', ALONE.
Well not really, that i wasn't happening. The I was happening.
You is not I ...you is you. So I agree.
Yes, and that statement claim is also what's happening.