Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:28 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:19 am
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:06 am
Check the context and find out, then.
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him."
Eternal life? Harbal for one doesn't care about such a thing, so no problem on that one.
Care or not, we all end up somewhere for eternity. We're deciding that now: so big problem on that one.
Where for eternity do you think Harbal is going if he has lived a more virtuous life according to God than you?
Immanuel Can wrote: atto wrote:
Immanuel Can wrote:"But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, but it is the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus..." (Rom. 3:21-23)
All have sinned, God and Christ included, so what?
No, not "God and Christ included." In fact, the opposite is said in Scripture. The "all" refers (in context) to all mankind, both Jews and Gentiles, not to "all entities," as you might suppose...go and check it out, if you doubt that.
How is drowning most of humanity not a sin, and yet someone that has lived a more virtuous life than you a sinner?
Immanuel Can wrote:
Immanuel Can wrote:"So having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now proclaiming to mankind that all people everywhere are to repent, because He has set a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all people by raising Him from the dead.” (Acts 17: 30-31)
Is this "Man" Christ that has been appointed to do the judging? I only ask because in the verse (John 3:16-17) you have further up states that Christ was not sent to the world to judge. What a major contradiction
That's because there's a time for judging, and a time not for judging.
It's still a contradiction, or at least a change of 'heart' by God since "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world", maybe God should have appended, that, well not yet everyone he's going to pop back and judge the everyone in the world within ONE day (quite a feat for anyone actually, impressive).
Immanuel Can wrote: atto wrote:
Immanuel Can wrote:(John 3:16-17)"If anyone does not love the Lord, he is to be accursed." (I Cor. 16:22)
The word is literally "anathema"
in the Greek. It means, "devoted to destruction."
But you're not open to this, I can see by your conclusions. I shall spare you making yourself more "anathema," therefore, and slip you right back on my ignore list.
How odd. The sage many years ago told me (from the aether) that crying is how we show our love (I have attested that to be true)
I'd wager with you that I have shed far more tears for what Christ did than you, Immanuel, so shove your "anathema" where it belongs.
RE: Your slipping me back onto your ignore list, that displays:
1. A lack of faith in your own convictions regarding Bible scripture confronted with the light of my very reasonable questioning.
2. That that you are the type that closes of information
because you find it troubling (in your case, to that 'faith')
3. You are so afraid of God that you dare not question the contents of the Bible to conclude any of it as irrational, contradictory.
You are afraid of God more than anyone on the forum and mostly for the wrong reasons. You are so afraid, that you will not question rationally, reasonably, what is written in that scripture. You take it all as if God scribbled every word within it, and are so fervent caused by your fear that you are almost as short of sight as an atheist regarding God.