Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:08 am
I view "mind" [full capabilities] as exclusive to humans, i.e.
- The mind (adjective form: mental) is that which thinks, imagines, remembers, wills, and senses, or is the set of faculties responsible for such phenomena.
The mind is also associated with experiencing perception, pleasure and pain, belief, desire, intention, and emotion. The mind can include conscious and non-conscious states as well as sensory and non-sensory experiences.
I believe that "the mind is roughly identical with the brain or reducible to physical phenomena such as neuronal activity" ibid.
If no humans, then no minds.
As such, there is only the human mind and no other. (1)
It is this mind [my definition] that 'constructs' reality via 3.5 billions years of organic evolution.
No, I mean Quidia rather than Qualia. Qualia are the properties of Quidia and Quidia is the object of experience and causation.
If you are introducing a new word you should have defined it.
Note my point;
"If you are a dualist, then your 'Mind' must be absolute independent from your body and all of reality."
Human does not have any mind.
There is only one mind, the mind, extended in spacetime.
You cannot deny the generally accepted 'mind' as defined above.
The mind is often understood as a faculty that manifests itself in mental phenomena like sensation, perception, thinking, reasoning, memory, belief, desire, emotion and motivation.
What you seem to be referring to is the
"The Extended Mind
" by Andy Clark and David Chalmers (1998) is the paper that originally stated the EMT. Clark and Chalmers present the idea of active externalism (not to be confused with semantic externalism), in which objects within the environment function as a part of the mind. They argue that the separation between the mind, the body, and the environment is an unprincipled distinction. Because external objects play a significant role in aiding cognitive processes, the mind and the environment act as a "coupled system" that can be seen as a complete cognitive system of its own. In this manner, the mind is extended into the physical world.
I believe to avoid confusion, you should not deny there is a human mind [as defined above].
Then you can claim, the human mind [as defined] is extended to all of reality.
But to call this extended human mind, "mind" merely cause confusion.
Why not give is a different term to avoid confusion with typical what is mind which general referring to the faculty of mind within humans.
If you insist, you can terms your extended mind as 'extended mind' or "Mind" in capital M.
If you claim an extended mind, you cannot claim to be a dualist [as defined] which is generally mind-body dualism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_dualism
If otherwise you will have to explain how yours is different from the others.
It is a fact that reality as all-there-is including who are intricately part and parcel of reality, thus the human-mind is part and parcel of reality.
As such, whatever happens within reality, that event cannot be absolutely independent of the human mind [as defined].
Note Chaos Theory where one's sneeze can cause a hurricane on the other side of the world.
Merely to claim there is no human mind and there is only one mind without detailed qualification only caused confusion and is a sign of clumsy philosophizing.
The OP in the thread uses the fact that change exists. The events are not simultaneous since there is a change. This means that processes are either continuous or discrete.
1. there is a human mind [small m],
2. the human-mind is also extended into the whole of reality [as you claimed as "Mind"]
the point here is,
change is firstly conditioned upon the human mind.
the concept of 'change' is a construct of the human mind.
as such 'change' do not prove the existence of the extended mind.
Here is one perspective;
Reality is all-there-is
All-there-is comprised the human-mind and everything else.
The human-mind is intricately part and parcel of reality.
As such, your idea of "Mind" make no sense within the above, unless you want to introduce an element of 'agency' but not comfortable with the term 'God'.
The what is human mind is necessary and useful to psychology thus the improvements of well being of individuals and humanity.
Question: what is the end game of your claim 'there is a Mind?'
Will your idea of "Mind" facilitate the the improvements of well being of individuals and humanity?