Cornel West For President!

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Leaving aside the issue of whether Cornell West would be a good, bad or indifferent president, the major issue is that his candidature threatens to put Trump back in the White House. Being on the left, West will not appeal to MAGA extremists but will attract voters who oppose Trump and would otherwise vote for Biden. So West, with no chance of beating Trump, syphons off many of Biden's votes and makes a Trump win likely.

Harlan Crow (of Clarence Thomas bribery fame) donated to the Cornell West campaign. That tells you all you need to know.
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mickthinks wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:19 pm Leaving aside the issue of whether Cornell West would be a good, bad or indifferent president, the major issue is that his candidature threatens to put Trump back in the White House. Being on the left, West will not appeal to MAGA extremists but will attract voters who oppose Trump and would otherwise vote for Biden. So West, with no chance of beating Trump, syphons off many of Biden's votes and makes a Trump win likely.

Harlan Crow (of Clarence Thomas bribery fame) donated to the Cornell West campaign. That tells you all you need to know.
NO. One donor tells you nothing. You might want to take a harder look at Trump's donors.

Ironically many Maga voters are so confused that the things they think they will get from Trump are the same things that Cornell has to offer.
I've seen several MAGA Vox Pops where they have been asked about left wing, even socialist policies and they have all agreed that these are the things the bigfatorangebaby man is going to give them: working rights, worker protection; healthcare; jobs; even univeral income.
Sadly for them Trump rarely talks about policy, but talks about himself. He has no real policy ideas.
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mickthinks wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:19 pm Leaving aside the issue of whether Cornell West would be a good, bad or indifferent president, the major issue is that his candidature threatens to put Trump back in the White House. Being on the left, West will not appeal to MAGA extremists but will attract voters who oppose Trump and would otherwise vote for Biden. So West, with no chance of beating Trump, syphons off many of Biden's votes and makes a Trump win likely.

Harlan Crow (of Clarence Thomas bribery fame) donated to the Cornell West campaign. That tells you all you need to know.
Yes. I'm familiar with the argument above. I voted for Ralph Nader in 2000. Nader and his supporters got plastered by the media for taking votes away from Gore allowing G. W. Butt to win and get us into Iraq and Afghanistan. I haven't voted for a third party candidate since.

I should be happy that Mussolini is elected instead of Hitler. Or think of the starving people in China next time I complain about life. Or think of people who don't have mouths to eat with and can't walk because they don't have legs. Just think of how much worse God is able to have made my life. Be thankful I'm not naked living at the South Pole in the dead of winter right now.

I surrender. The God of penitence always wins. It's his world after all. We're the lucky ones who get to live in it.
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Sculptor wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:33 pmOne donor tells you nothing.
That depends on the donor. In this case it tells you all you need to know about whether West's candidature is a good thing for US democracy, or for anyone who might want to vote for him.

You might want to take a harder look at Trump's donors.
Okay, who do you want to flag up for my attention?
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mickthinks wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:05 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:33 pmOne donor tells you nothing.
That depends on the donor. In this case it tells you all you need to know about whether West's candidature is a good thing for US democracy, or for anyone who might want to vote for him.

You might want to take a harder look at Trump's donors.
Okay, who do you want to flag up for my attention?
I find it difficult to believe that Cornel West of all people has sold his soul to a business tycoon. There's something odd about that. However, I suppose stranger things have happened.

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I'm not going to even vote in this next election. What's the point?
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... -donation/
Independent presidential candidate Cornel West said Friday he returned a controversial donation from Harlan Crow — the billionaire with controversial links to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

“How sad that perceptions so quickly triumph over truth in our decadent culture,” West said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter. “This holds in our major catastrophe in the Middle East where the rich humanity of Palestinians is rendered invisible. It also holds at home in the minor scandal about Harlan Crow’s donation to my campaign.”
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/05/politics ... index.html
Progressive scholar Cornel West announced Thursday he will run as an independent candidate in the 2024 presidential election, abandoning his campaign for the Green Party’s nomination amid criticism from some leading leftists.

West, in a video posted to social media, again promised to “break the grip of the duopoly and give power to the people” but did not explain his break from the Green Party – a move that will likely hamstring his efforts to get on the presidential ballot next year.

The former Harvard professor announced his candidacy in June, saying he was running under the little-known progressive “People’s Party” banner. He soon ditched the group and, with backing from former Green presidential nominee Jill Stein, said he would seek the more familiar party’s support. But in late September, storied progressive advocate Ralph Nader, the 2000 Green presidential nominee who is backing President Joe Biden in 2024, criticized the Green Party’s political infrastructure.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... c-primary/
Instead of taking his bat and ball and retreating to the margins, we believe West should seek out the truly national stage that running as a Democrat would bring. Instead of letting Robert F. Kennedy Jr. leverage his family name—and his following as an anti-vaccine crusader—into an ersatz challenge from the left, West should mount a real one, offering the radical solutions he’s always championed, including on war and peace, and which we believe this country desperately needs.

Such a campaign would be good for the country—and for the Democratic Party, which, in the absence of such a contest, risks ceding the national spotlight to the Republicans. Running as a Democrat would transform West’s candidacy from a sterile exercise into a vehicle for redeeming our politics from the corporate complacency and soul-crushing cynicism about democratic politics that serves only those already in power. In short, it would be the act of a serious man.
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