I can "directly" access my own internal thoughts.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:34 pmI did not use the qualifier, "direct". What does it mean to "directly" access something as opposed to simply accessing it?seeds wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:48 pm _______
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It's not a contradiction.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:32 pm If Actuality is objective but you cannot access it then how did you come to know, or how were you informed, that actuality exists and is objective? This is the same problem that Wiz is making in claiming that there are aspects of reality that we cannot access, yet we can know about. This is a contradiction.
We each know (or at least are pretty darn sure) that other minds exist, yet we cannot directly access the interior reality of those other minds.
On the other hand, you are "indirectly" accessing my thoughts (and vice versa) via the intermediary process of the words appearing on this screen.
If we could "directly" access each other's internal thoughts, along with the intended meaning of those thoughts, then the information we are attempting to convey to one another in these debates would be precise and not misunderstood as is usually the case.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:34 pm What information is lost by simply accessing something rather than "directly" accessing something?
No. You would be "indirectly" accessing those seeds.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:34 pm When you cut an apple in half are you "directly" accessing its seeds when looking at it?
The only apple seeds that you have "direct" access to are the ones in the vivid 3-D apple you may have dreamed about last night within the closed spatial arena of your very own private universe (i.e., your mind).
Are you being serious now?Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:34 pm Why can't we do the same thing with a brain but cutting it open and "directly" accessing the mind?
Do you actually believe that you could cut open a human brain and "directly" access a palm tree in a lucid dreamer's dream of a tropical island paradise in such a way that would allow you to count and measure its individual palm fronds?
Again, no.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:34 pm When looking at a human body are you "directly" accessing it?
Your physical eyes are but mere "windows" that allow you to peer outward from the inner dimension of your own private universe (again, your mind) and "indirectly" access the phenomenal features that reside within the inner dimension of yet another universe of which your physical eyes (and body and brain) are a part of.
In other words,...
(and this is where the possibility of the existence of a higher Being enters the picture)
...your material body is simply a multi-sensory "interface" that gives your mind temporary access to the inner reality of the higher mind to whom this particular universe belongs.
(Continued in next post)
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