I don't know. Your "obvious" and my "obvious" seem to be a bit different.
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Seems so.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:42 pmI don't know. Your "obvious" and my "obvious" seem to be a bit different.
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Great idea.
Describe how you'd get that done.
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If someone declares war on someone else, then outlaw that.
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How would that be enforced?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:56 pmIf someone declares war on someone else, then outlaw that.
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The same way anything else is enforced. [sarcasm]If it's unenforcible then what do you do just outlaw something harmless that is enforcible instead? Like no one knows how to think I guess? [/sarcasm]Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:58 pmHow would that be enforced?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:56 pmIf someone declares war on someone else, then outlaw that.
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Here's an idea for you IC. Just outlaw whatever you want. If you don't want to outlaw war, then don't. I'm tired of dealing with morons.
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I regard Chomsky, similarly to Leo Strauss possibly, as a Machiavellian theorist. In much of Chomsky’s work (On Power & Ideology comes to mind) he exposes brutally and uncompromisingly the true power-machinations of the US power-régime during and after WW2. He also says that all political systems are or tend to be similar systems for the control and management of populations. Therefore, his analysis can be applied to all political systems.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:10 pmThen you need to read Hegel, Marx and the Cultural Marxists. It's all there.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:15 pm I am not sure if the simplistic label of ‘socialism’ and ‘socialists’ is enough to explain a régime and a power-structure.
Knowing this, as I think it is wise to know, we need not refer necessarily to Hegel, Marx nor the Cultural Marxists in our analysis of power. Long before any of them this dynamic existed.
For this reason — but in no sense discounting harsh critical examination of the influence of Hegel, Marx or the CMs — I said “I am not sure if the simplistic label of ‘socialism’ and ‘socialists’ is enough to explain a régime and a power-structure”, and by that (since this is really the topic) I make reference to the power structure that runs, or own, America in this more global sense (neo-imperialism).
Are you saying that the the only proper lens to view the power-dynamic that Machiavelli understood to operate can only be viewed through a Hegelian or Marxian lens?
It does seem very necessary that Cultural Marxism in our present be seen and exposed, but there is a larger reality that must appear under the label of strict power dynamics it seems to me.
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You didn't answer the question, you just deflected.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:00 pmThe same way anything else is enforced. [sarcasm]If it's unenforcible then what do you do just outlaw something harmless that is enforcible instead? Like no one knows how to think I guess? [/sarcasm]Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:58 pmHow would that be enforced?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:56 pm
If someone declares war on someone else, then outlaw that.
How would it be enforced?
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With what body? What authority?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:56 pmIf someone declares war on someone else, then outlaw that.
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I didn't mention him.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:25 pmI regard Chomsky, similarly to Leo Strauss possibly, as a Machiavellian theorist.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:10 pmThen you need to read Hegel, Marx and the Cultural Marxists. It's all there.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:15 pm I am not sure if the simplistic label of ‘socialism’ and ‘socialists’ is enough to explain a régime and a power-structure.
Nobody said we should. I said that if you want to understand the Socialists of today, though, those are the people you need to understand.we need not refer necessarily to Hegel, Marx nor the Cultural Marxists in our analysis of power
I'm not talking about "the power-dynamic." I'm just talking about today's Left. They do get their derivation from Marx and Hegel.Are you saying that the the only proper lens to view the power-dynamic that Machiavelli understood to operate can only be viewed through a Hegelian or Marxian lens?
I don't know where you got your idea about "power dynamic" stuff from. It could be pratically anybody...Nietzsche, Rand, Foucault, or Chomsky. They all talk about "power." And Foucault is somewhat relevant, as is Nietzsche. But they're not relevant to today's Left in anything near the way that Marx and Hegel are. So let's stick to the topic.
I was explaining dialectics. Hegel and Marx are the right sources.
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I don't know. I'm not a police expert. Go ask someone who is.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:27 pmYou didn't answer the question, you just deflected.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:00 pmThe same way anything else is enforced. [sarcasm]If it's unenforcible then what do you do just outlaw something harmless that is enforcible instead? Like no one knows how to think I guess? [/sarcasm]
How would it be enforced?
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How about the UN?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:00 pmWith what body? What authority?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:56 pmIf someone declares war on someone else, then outlaw that.
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I don't think a couple of cops are enforcing international law.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:05 pmI don't know. I'm not a police expert. Go ask someone who is.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:27 pmYou didn't answer the question, you just deflected.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:00 pm
The same way anything else is enforced. [sarcasm]If it's unenforcible then what do you do just outlaw something harmless that is enforcible instead? Like no one knows how to think I guess? [/sarcasm]
How would it be enforced?
Do you expect your idea to be enforced by... more wars?
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You can't stop war by declaring war, can you???????Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:17 pmI don't think a couple of cops are enforcing international law.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:05 pmI don't know. I'm not a police expert. Go ask someone who is.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:27 pm
You didn't answer the question, you just deflected.
How would it be enforced?
Do you expect your idea to be enforced by... more wars?